You sure about that? I am not sure about it either way. I'd like to think that a coach, such as Groce, that talk about his faith an awful lot doesn't get drunk. Maybe I am being naive.
I used to live about a mile from JHo when he was in Urbana and would see him all the time at night at the County Market on Philo. He looked a little baked sometimes, and often was buying alcohol and some snacks (he he). Not surprised.Not having the weed but I'm sure Self knew he smoked, how long have they known each other? Everything after that is what's going to get him fired.
I used to live about a mile from JHo when he was in Urbana and would see him all the time at night at the County Market on Philo. He looked a little baked sometimes, and often was buying alcohol and some snacks (he he). Not surprised.
Not a very smart move.. That could be a career killer.. But I am sure DePaul would look past it.. I would bet money he is gone from Kansas and soon. He just lost all credibility recruiting in home. Every coach in the world will throw that fact to the parents.. Want your kid playing for a pot head? Good lord what was he thinking.
Dumb move but I think some of you are being a bit overly dramatic. Career killer for having a misdemeanor amount of marijuana on him? Good grief, this isn't the 70's anymore. More and more municipalities won't even prosecute these "crimes" anymore. He may spend an extra year in assistant coach land as a result but assuming he stays out of trouble he'll be back. Self won't fire him for this unless he sees limited value in Snacks to begin with.
Sure it shows a certain lack of judgment/intelligence but so does chewing tobacco or getting drunk. If you limited visits to your kids only to people that didn't actively do those three things, you'd have about 5 recruiters/coaches in the nation and none of them would be Illinois coaches.
It isn't a crime to get drunk or chew tobacco. It is, however, illegal to do so and then drive afterwards. I suspect people will look at the marijuana charge as a similar offense to a DUI/DWI.
Which is all we can go on at this point.
Really going on a tangent here, but marijuana and drunk driving are nothing alike. Marijuana arguably causes harm to yourself and certainly puts others around you at no greater risk than if you'd been drinking, which is perfectly legal. Drunk driving puts lives at risk - yours and others.
The committee found substantial evidence that risk of motor vehicle crash doubles among drivers with recent marijuana use. Additionally, we found substantial evidence for a positive relationship between THC blood level and motor vehicle crash risk –that is, substantial evidence that the higher the level of THC in blood, the higher the crash risk.
He did not say you can drive stoned. Nobody thinks that as far as I know. He was saying driving buzzed/drunk is much worse than a person merely smoking weed (not driving).
I don't know that I believe Self, but absent of any contradictory evidence, I have trouble suggesting he did.I wish you were my high school principal. He never seemed to think my 'claims' were evidence.
This thread is interesting to read between the two arms of humanity. One that thinks there is something wrong with marijuana and the other that thinks it is no big deal.
Yes, thanks. of course driving stoned is completely different. I don't think there were any allegations that JH was driving stoned, so I don't know why we're talking about that here.