I was going to ask the same thing. I haven't seen anything about this. Just here.So is this rumor or did Underwood actually go after a fan?
I was going to ask the same thing. I haven't seen anything about this. Just here.So is this rumor or did Underwood actually go after a fan?
Not too many coaches on this board. But if we have better talent in a big game shouldn’t we win? That’s the problem. We lose or play even with teams with even or lesser talent. That’s coaching. I thought BU was an X and O guy. But he loses more close games than he wins. I was a BU believer. No longer. He’s failing. Not horribly- but failing. I’m off the train. This team should perform more predictably. It doesn’t.
Have you seen how bad we run the high pick and roll? Our guards were all sick the day they talked about driving the defender into the screen. Why Underwood allows this lack of fundamentals is beyond me., or any other lack of discipline. For instance, blocking your man out. Let's see that happened, yesterday. If a coach allows players to play without sound fundamentals most players will take it. BU and staff don't shoot free throws or miss lay-ups as i often read but they are responsible for much of what we see from the players.
Thanks. JW may want to speak with you.I was the one yelling at BU for losing 2 years in a row. My exact words “that’s 0-2 Brad”. He came at me being restrained by two security guards. All for the Illini but losing to a sub par Missouri team is unacceptable.
If a coach isn't responsible for developing chemistry we need to drop the salary.I am not quite sure what is meant when it is said that a coach "allows lack of fundamentals." The player knows the fundamentals, most have been playing for 10 years. The coach knows the fundamentals. I assume passing is a fundamental. If the players do not pass the ball, move without the ball, that is on the coach? Granted the weave is an 'Underblunder." But there is such as thing as "collaborative chemistry" which a team has to develop on its own, independent of coaching. I do not see that yet with the Illini.
So is this rumor or did Underwood actually go after a fan?
Should be proud of yourselfThanks. JW may want to speak with you.
If a coach isn't responsible for developing chemistry we need to drop the salary.
Tevian Jones play meaningful minutes
If a coach isn't responsible for developing chemistry we need to drop the salary.
I’m starting to think Underwood doesn’t have a clue on rotations and lineups or even adjusting to the teams strengths and weaknesses.
It's remarkable, isn't it, that some coaches seem to luck into players year after year that build chemistry among themselves and that other coaches seem to get unlucky year after year.I tend to to disagree. Coach can develop a sense of team (team-building) but chemistry has to come largely from and between the players.
Ward - no disrespect, I’m old too - but BUs teams make the same mistakes and show the same tendencies year after year. His first couple years here I gave him a pass because he had mostly !!!! players and froshmen. That excuse doesn’t fly now. His team is underperforming and his good players seem to be regressing. It’s not good. The Michigan game papered over a ton of issues. Kind of like MSU last year. Other B1G teams with recent coaching changes are leaving us in their dust.I am really old, but like to believe I have gained some knowledge watching so many years of basketball. Ever fan will have 1,2 or even 3 players who don't play much that they think is the answer. It is the reason there is so much hope at the beginning of the season, the unknown. So people saying Alan and TJ need minutes because they are better than everyone else, pump the breaks. They can be nice pieces, but they aren't number one recruits that would change the game completely.
Remember this isn't year 6 for BU. Sure, it can be frustrating at times, but he has shown a willingness to adapt. You cannot change your offense in the middle of a game. They are playing a completely different defense because he was willing to change his his philosophies to something that may works better. But again, the players are still learning the defense, it takes time. This is year 3. We are better than year 1. We are better than year 2. As much as we want to think it, Illinois basketball is not the draw it once was for players...why? Because we had a long stretch of John Groce and Bruce Weber losing. So you work your tail off, recruit some guys who can play, and slowly get this thing going again. We almost beat a top 5 team and we did beat another top 5 team. That would have been a fantastic season under Groce...that one win. So let BU lose a few games to gather some knowledge about what works/doesn't work.
Sorry, I am old and I didn't mean to write so much. I hope you take these words as an honest assessment. US fans can rush to a judgement, but I promise that BU has forgot more about basketball than most of us know...Go Illini.
Ward - no disrespect, I’m old too - but BUs teams make the same mistakes and show the same tendencies year after year. His first couple years here I gave him a pass because he had mostly !!!! players and froshmen. That excuse doesn’t fly now. His team is underperforming and his good players seem to be regressing. It’s not good. The Michigan game papered over a ton of issues. Kind of like MSU last year. Other B1G teams with recent coaching changes are leaving us in their dust.
It sure is, damn unluckyIt's remarkable, isn't it, that some coaches seem to luck into players year after year that build chemistry among themselves and that other coaches seem to get unlucky year after year.
How many of those guys lost basically an entire recruiting class and have multiple transfers(most notably JCL). Smith and Finke were after the fact, so can't count them. Those were on his watch.Archie Miller, Holtmann and Underwood were all hired about the same time. How would we rank them after 3.5 years??
Not sure that I'd count 0 assists and 4 turnovers outplaying anybody at the point guard position. That's a major, major problem.With that being said, his position is the only one where we outplayed them.
Number 1. Giorgi will look better in some games more than others. Missouri put a long athletic forward on him. That’s a tough match up.Woah woah woah pump the breaks there fella. We’re light years away from coach K. I’m guessing coach k was getting tons out of minimal talent in year 3. This underwood has a decent B1G squad underperforming. He can’t figure out how to make those 4 good guards play together. He has seen Giorgi regress. So where, exactly, is this coaching genius that equates to that d-bag who wins titles like his mentor who also won titles? This is a sad slide into lower B1G mediocrity. Brad ain’t the answer. I thought this last year and felt guilty for being “that fan”. No more. He ain’t got it. Too many B1G coaches outperforming him. Loser.
Some don't want to acknowledge this, but our brand, the Illinois name, for the last 12-13 years stinks, in both sports. The programs you mention never lost their iconic names or tradition. No kid gives a damn about what Illinois was in 2005. He's had to/is trying to change that perception.Archie Miller, Holtmann and Underwood were all hired about the same time. How would we rank them after 3.5 years??