That would be an odd position for California to take considering that the only relevant school is UCLA, which has not been implicated and honestly hasn't been much of a blue blood in recent years.
It is not so much that I think California wants to accomplish this, but it is the people in the media and elsewhere that have been seriously pushing this idea since the inception of the FBI investigation.
ALL P-5 conferences together would have the clout and the time to do this...good idea for the NCAA to "have" to fold if that were the case. However, the conference powers that be would all have to agree as a unit to possibly forego billions to take this stance? Not sure you could get that many blow hards to agree on anything?
Suppose this “pay for play” stuff comes to fruition. A few questions: What happens to the internal team dynamics when players are not paid equally? Will free agency evolve? Trades?
What’s next?
Well, in the case of the NBA it’s the teams that are setting and making the payments. I guess the proposed college scenario would be similar to all the “extra” stuff pros make through endorsements, etc. I’m not arguing pro or con ... just suggesting that this pay for play road may have a few twists and turns, bumps, etc. (and that there may be more than pay at stake)Do NBA teams fall apart when players aren't all paid equally? NFL? MLB? NHL? MLS? Premier League? PGA?
Well, in the case of the NBA it’s the teams that are setting and making the payments. I guess the proposed college scenario would be similar to all the “extra” stuff pros make through endorsements, etc. I’m not arguing pro or con ... just suggesting that this pay for play road may have a few twists and turns, bumps, etc. (and that there may be more than pay at stake)
Do NBA teams fall apart when players aren't all paid equally? NFL? MLB? NHL? MLS? Premier League? PGA?
That's my sense of it. The NCAA brass, the conference brass, ADs and other top positions, and obviously the coaching staffs are all making huge amounts from drastically suppressing the earnings of the top players. This has resulted in a black market that's become so obvious that scandals barely register anymore. Why have such a corrupt system? The NCAA and folks who created it aren't capable of fixing it any more than the investment bankers "fixed" the over-leveraged economy when they crashed it. When a group creates a problem because they're greedy, having them fix it is a terrible idea.NCAA was too corrupt to level the playing field so so
someone else had to do it.
All those organizations have a draft process to somewhat level the field (except the PGA, which isn’t composed of teams).
I am sure it will not be 100% bulletproof in its first iteration.
When do they no longer have to go to class? When do the coaches get their salaries cut to offset revenue loss?There will be lots of unintended consequences, and I don't think it's that hard to see many of them. It will be a pay system without any governance. All the major team sports have some sort of salary cap or luxury tax to keep things at least somewhat in check. There would be no way to do that here.
The simple case is EA Sports paying players for a college video game, in which case the payments are pretty even across the various players and teams (at least the top ones). But what if someone like Khan says, "Hey Ayo, I'll give you 50k to put your picture on a billboard on I-57"? That's all good under the new law, correct?
We've already seen the deep pockets influencing football and basketball by building ever better facilities and inflating coaching salaries. What will happen when they can directly impact talent acquisition? Which aspect correlates more closely with winning: facilities, coaching, or talent? If I'm super rich, my money is going towards talent.
Well some players are not going to class now...And I am fine with coaches not making millions of dollarsWhen do they no longer have to go to class? When do the coaches get their salaries cut to offset revenue loss?
Kinda how I feel. Teams with a national brand would have more to offer in the way of endorsements.Boosters waving Gs around for a billboard will still have to compete with other schools' boosters waving Gs around for a billboard, and we're back to favorites. There aren't 347 MDAAs every year to go around, and guess I don't see any reason to expect any more of a 'level playing field'. Programs like Duke, Kansas, NC, Kentucky have to be licking their chops at this, because they already control the business relationships with the deepest pockets.
There will be lots of unintended consequences, and I don't think it's that hard to see many of them. It will be a pay system without any governance. All the major team sports have some sort of salary cap or luxury tax to keep things at least somewhat in check. There would be no way to do that here.
The simple case is EA Sports paying players for a college video game, in which case the payments are pretty even across the various players and teams (at least the top ones). But what if someone like Khan says, "Hey Ayo, I'll give you 50k to put your picture on a billboard on I-57"? That's all good under the new law, correct?
We've already seen the deep pockets influencing football and basketball by building ever better facilities and inflating coaching salaries. What will happen when they can directly impact talent acquisition? Which aspect correlates more closely with winning: facilities, coaching, or talent? If I'm super rich, my money is going towards talent.
I haven't read the law, but there may be a provision requiring an arms length tranaction and prohibiting boosters from being involved. This is just supposition on my part though.
I'm guessing the best prospects out of HS will be signing agents, and those agents will likely be involved in finding a school for the athletes to attend. I imagine some of these negotiated NIL contracts will be a factor.
Its a big departure from the current state, but I don't see anything wrong with that other than the fact that it's different.
Great information. Thanks for sharing it. There are a number of things that just don’t seem like they would hold up to me, but I’m not a lawyer and I assume people who wrote the bill are.I previously posted this in the recruiting thread of all places...
My own acronyms for brevity:
NIL = student's name, image, likeness
NCAA = An athletic association, conference, or other group or organization with authority over intercollegiate athletics, including, but not limited to, the National Collegiate Athletic Association
School = postsecondary educational institution, meaning any campus of the University of California or the California State University, an independent institution of higher education, as defined in Section 66010, or a private postsecondary educational institution, as defined in Section 94858
Rule = rule, requirement, standard, or other limitation
1. A school cannot uphold any rule that prevents a student from earning compensation as a result of the use of NIL. Earning compensation from NIL shall not affect the students eligibility.
2. The NCAA shall not prevent a student at a school from earning compensation for NIL.
3. The NCAA shall not prevent a school from participating in intercollegiate athletics as a result of a student earning compensation for NIL.
4. A school cannot provide compensation to a student for NIL.
5. Schools and the NCAA cannot prohibit a student from hiring attorneys and agents.
6. Agents and lawyers hired by a student must be licensed by the state.
7. Agents representing students must comply with federal laws.
8. A scholarship provided by a school is not considered compensation. A scholarship shall not be revoked as a result of a student earning compensation for NIL.
9. A student cannot enter into a contract for NIL that conflicts with one of their teams' contracts. A student that enters a contract must disclose it to the school. The school must respond identifying any conflicts.
10. A team's contract shall not prevent a student from using their NIL for a commercial purpose when the student is not engaged in official team activities.
11. This becomes operative 1/1/2023