that is bubblicious to its core?
Not this year and not in this conference this year....solidly still in, seeding less than ideal.
that is bubblicious to its core?
That's where I'm at too. This conference is going to get 11 one way or another. The conference is ridiculous. Most every night it's two top 50 teams playing.Not this year and not in this conference this year....solidly still in, seeding less than ideal.
Give me an 11 or 12 seed all day over a 8/9 seed. Still think this team can beat anyone if their shots are falling, but would love to have more margin for error against a 6 and 3 seed than an 8 and 1 seed.Not this year and not in this conference this year....solidly still in, seeding less than ideal.
Hope you guys are correct very concerned with our non con record and loosing big games at home. I really feel our margin of error is shrinking quite a bit. If we stumble against say IU or Iowa and loose all the road games? Yikes we will be very much on the bubble. We should get in I agree, but we can’t just keep loosing. After we get torched at PSU, I think we need 4 out of last 5. Still our 1st round tournament game will not be a pushover in the BTT.Give me an 11 or 12 seed all day over a 8/9 seed. Still think this team can beat anyone if their shots are falling, but would love to have more margin for error against a 6 and 3 seed than an 8 and 1 seed.
While we were a 4/5 three weeks ago, now we're probably looking at 9/10 when all the dust settles.
i think your dead wrong here AZ. I think we are bubble (Net in the 40’s?) and horrible losses out of con. Now if we win 5 out of our last 6 then we will be a 7 I agree. On the other had, win only 3 start to sweat as the BTT becomes very very important. In my opinion, you orange and blue glasses are tinting your view of the quality of this team and how the committee will view their record. They should get in, but is far from a lock right now.Regardless of how we finish (not winning at all withstanding) I thin we are at the worst a solid 8-9 and more likely a 6-7 seed when we get bracketed.
If we lose on Tuesday (which I expect), we'd be at 16-10. For the prediction of 19-12 to come true, they believe we're going 3-2 in the last five. I'm guessing the assumed losses are Iowa and Ohio State, with the assumed wins being Northwestern, Nebraska and Indiana.From Team Rankings.
After losing to Rutgers 72-57 yesterday, Illinois is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (11-9 Big Ten).
The odds that the Fighting Illini make the NCAA tournament are down to 47%, a decrease of 19% since yesterday.
We currently rank Illinois as the #34 team in the country, and the #10 team in the Big Ten.
Next game: Tue, Feb 18 at #13 Penn State. Our power ratings give the Fighting Illini a 29% chance to win.
The NET LOVES Purdue, Michigan, Ohio State and Wisconsin. They have the numbers in their favor driven by the non conference debacle. Losses to Miami (at home) and getting throttled vs Missouri (on a neutral site) and at Arizona by 20+ has put us in a perilous position. None of the teams above have those disasters on their resume.It seems we are better than Purdue, Michigan, Northwestern, and Nebraska. We are roughly even with Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana (we are probably better), Wisconsin, and Minnesota We are worse than Maryland, Michigan State, Penn State, and Iowa. If Ayo comes back after PSU and plays decent, we should be in the NCAA.
Understand..but a system that loves Michigan and Purdue over us when we beat them home and away requires some judgement to take place beyond the raw numbers. Particularly, when Purdue is 14 and 12.The NET LOVES Purdue, Michigan, Ohio State and Wisconsin. They have the numbers in their favor driven by the non conference debacle. Losses to Miami (at home) and getting throttled vs Missouri (on a neutral site) and at Arizona by 20+ has put us in a perilous position. None of the teams above have those disasters on their resume.
We need a strong finish to eliminate that doubt. We had squashed it as of three weeks ago. A four(probably five) gave losing streak brings that back into play.
Unfortunately, when the selections are made, head to head does not come into play unless it is literally a situation where the two teams are vying for the last position. Conference records does not come into play. It is one teams resume vs the other 360(or whatever)teams. It gets into the "whole body of work" factor, which is what the NET took is supposed to address. So, while we took care of Wisconsin, Michigan and Purdue, the whole body of work states that they have had a more impressive season on the whole. Michigan has a win over Gonzaga, while we lost to Miami and Missouri. That's a big, big deal.Understand..but a system that loves Michigan and Purdue over us when we beat them home and away requires some judgement to take place beyond the raw numbers. Particularly, when Purdue is 14 and 12.
Probably not the best thread for my question, but.....
Is it the quad when you play the game or is it adjusted to the quad after the season is over.
The quad wins constantly change based on NET rankings at the time.When the season is over.
The quad wins constantly change based on NET rankings at the time.
you orange and blue glasses are tinting your view of the quality of this team and how the committee will view their record.
Not sure Illinois is better than Michigan right now.It seems we are better than Purdue, Michigan, Northwestern, and Nebraska. We are roughly even with Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana (we are probably better), Wisconsin, and Minnesota We are worse than Maryland, Michigan State, Penn State, and Iowa. If Ayo comes back after PSU and plays decent, we should be in the NCAA.
hope your correct, but shy of winning 5 of our last 6, and/or a deep run in the BTT I think we are bubbling to the top. Now i will day 4 of 6 we are on the right side of bubble. Three of six and first round BTT loss? What a friendly wager on it? I really hope it is moot and we win at least 4 of 6, but if not beer says we are play in game with 3/6 and loss in 1st round.I don't wear glasses...my view of the quality of this team withstanding, I believe the commitee will see it for what it is...an middle/upper echelon team in the nations toughest conference. The quality of our conference is not in question, the level of team may or may not be...what remains of my vision on this team or yours may be different, I don't think the commitee will see this though.
The B1G conference play will weigh heavily on the seeding process imo.
Well...the only evidence we have is that we beat them twice.Not sure Illinois is better than Michigan right now.
I don’t expect us to win, but I do expect us to play better than we did against Rutgers. Will be very disappointed if we don’t.
My not so hot take is after this game we are likely almost down to zero margin for error. With a Net of 38 we are getting very close to the bubble. I’m not expecting Ayo to play, but realllly hope this is his last game out.
Bart Torvik still has us at a 92.1% chance to make the tournament. Projected 8.1 seed. We're still okay. The Big Ten is very likely going to send a bunch of teams to the tourney. We should be one of them.hope your correct, but shy of winning 5 of our last 6, and/or a deep run in the BTT I think we are bubbling to the top. Now i will day 4 of 6 we are on the right side of bubble. Three of six and first round BTT loss? What a friendly wager on it? I really hope it is moot and we win at least 4 of 6, but if not beer says we are play in game with 3/6 and loss in 1st round.