Ohio State 77, Illinois 67 POSTGAME

#77
It's been said many times, i'll say it again IL had no business playing this game at UC. 5200 people! This did not help recruiting or the "brand" as they say. Helped OSU though. We don't have to play at State Farm , great. Are we returning the favor what you think we're nuts. The AD job is to put your team in the best position to win which Whitman failed to do. For those who say playing at the Farm would not have resulted in a win that is not relevant. You play your B10 home games at home!
 
#78
The officiating did not cost the game but some of the calls are really bad. Late in game OSU guard falls down around free throw line and Nichols i thing gets bogus foul. Down by 6 i believe they make 2 throws now 8. This is called choking ur whistle. Underwood, better get on refs or they will blow whistle all year long whether earned or not.
College games have become a never-ending series of block/charge calls. Leaving way too much up to the referees.
 
#81
Offense just won't work with this lineup. Anyone can defend this offense. Defense, guards need to be brought down to 3 pt line,
compact it more. Players just get tired out by the second half, can clearly see it. The energy required for both halves is just too much.
Energy inefficiency.

Still have to remember that we had two freshmen and one sophomores starting the game.

However, the biggest stump to me was that A Wesson had 4 fouls for the last ~13 minutes of the game
and no one fouled him out. I don't get it. Sorry.

keep on truckin

joe
 
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#82
Underwoods defense does require a lot of energy, which is something to be considered and I'm sure he has. Unfortunately, he considers it a viable defense despite the numbers.
 
#84
Illini Basketball Fan Forever
Bay Area, CA
Like most games this season, it was fun for awhile in the first half, then it got away in the second half. I liked the defense forcing turnovers, but we did miss a lot of shots up close, and we missed a lot of 3 pointers. We need to be able to score some high numbers to win with Underwood's style of play. It could be a long year for those expecting to see W's in the big ten conference.
 
#86
the Front Range
I can live with this result. The system showed that it could be effective. Putting Kipper in mismatches was something I thought we would see every game. Happy to finally see it.

Sometimes it comes down to simply making a shot. Damonte and Adonis are frustrating because they are so sound fundamentally. Damonte has a perfect looking jumper. Adonis makes some really nice post moves. But neither guy hardly ever gets the ball through the hoop.
Agree +10000
 
#88
We need to stay out of Chicago until the product on the floor gets better. Amazed they cannot figure that out. Last nights awful crowd hurts Illinois's image in Chicago and nationally. As far as the team nothing to do but continue to work to get better and hope we see some improvement. Wins are going to be hard to come by going forward especially when we truly get into the Big 10 schedule in January talent is not there to compete on a night in night out basis. Hope for some upsets at home, young players develop and we recruit a couple more players. Things are as dark as I have ever seen them in CU but we have to hope some light at the end of the tunnel.
 
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#90
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/col...cle_e391ee3f-676d-5872-a1c5-25dba3af4c62.html

“Forty minutes of basketball, 40 minutes of basketball and focusing in on the details for the duration of the game,” Nichols said. “At certain points in the game, our effort was outstanding. If we do that for 40 minutes and sustain that energy and effort, I think we can give ourselves a chance to win a lot of ballgames and we can play with anybody in the country.”


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I agree with Kip's statement but we get NO respect from refs....none....the fouls called late in the game were bogus at best....the foul called when the osu player was driving the lane showed NO contact by us and the foul called on the right half side of the court beyond the 3 pt arc was called AFTER the osu player fell and travelled....bad officiating all season long hit a new low last nite...DJ Carsten (lurch) is a bad ref...BOrosky called a charge and it got reversed


etc etc ....we need new refs with 20/20 vision...
 
#91
Frustration is obvious but I really don’t think refs lost us this game. The foul disparity was only 4. Free throw difference was only 5 but both teams made 23. Rebounds we lost by 4, turnovers we won. You can win games with those stats when you make the shots you’re supposed to make, such as layups and rhythm 3s. Missing 12-13 layups is in unacceptable at every level once you have like 2 years of experience.

We had our best offensive possession of the first half that ended in a DMW kickout 3. Had great spread offense movement and passing, with a couple natural drives that come out of the offense that ended in a kickout. The goal is to see more of that, but when you can’t make layups teams literally don’t have to play help side defense so shooters aren’t open.

Kipper finally attacked on an isolation from the pinch post. About time. I screamed “finally!” at my tv when he did it.

We have flashes. We have bursts. We have runs. We just don’t have enough. I also didn’t think we win that game at home. But sure would have been nice to find out.
 
#92
We rank in the 330’s in fouls per game. It has become, at the very start of Underwood’s 2nd year, a self fulfilling prophecy.
We are known for fouling, it’s not going to get better soon.
 
#93
OFL Supplier, BU's Brylcreem
Virginia
Offense just won't work with this lineup. Anyone can defend this offense. Defense, guards need to be brought down to 3 pt line,
compact it more. Players just get tired out by the second half, can clearly see it. The energy required for both halves is just too much.
Energy inefficiency.

Still have to remember that we had two freshmen and one sophomores starting the game.

However, the biggest stump to me was that A Wesson had 4 fouls for the last ~13 minutes of the game
and no one fouled him out. I don't get it. Sorry.

keep on truckin

joe
O scheme wasn't a problem yesterday - making shots was. It got us to the rim. Missing 13 of them is inexcusable - especially by the elders on the team. Not only do you take away 2 points, you crush spirit when you miss a simple shot when you're trying to close out a game and make a run.

We also got at least 2 fouls called on OSU during the pinch post handoff. Teams have been trying to run over that pick and reach through it for a couple of games now, its about time the refs finally started calling that - AND - our guards are rubbing their man off much tighter. Its all about execution. What we now need to add to that is a better roll to the basket by the pinch post with some lob dunks when the big man hedges that handoff.
 
#94
The good - 1. We are getting some open shots. 2. We are getting layups. 3. The defense is causing turnovers.
The bad - 1. Fouls 2. Team is too tired.
The Ugly - 1. Underwood not utilizing Ayo. 2. Underwood's timing of when to chew !!! and when to play it cool. 3. Ayo's body language.
 
#95
OFL Supplier, BU's Brylcreem
Virginia
The good - 1. We are getting some open shots. 2. We are getting layups. 3. The defense is causing turnovers.
The bad - 1. Fouls 2. Team is too tired.
The Ugly - 1. Underwood not utilizing Ayo. 2. Underwood's timing of when to chew !!! and when to play it cool. 3. Ayo's body language.
Possibly, but my first thought is Ayo has no one to blame but Ayo... this is big time ball and he can't just coast in the lane and long reach layups. He had open looks and his FT shooting should be much better at this point.
 
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#98
This season is a wash. Just start Frazier and the rest freshmen. Kipper and Jordan just not cutting it as upper classmen.
Kipper just had one of his best games this year. AJ is the only guy out there that can defend without fouling and has added some to his offensive game. Blame Kipper at times, but AJ is part of the solution, it's a shame this year is how his career will end.
 
#99
The difference in the way tOSU (and Nebraska, and lots of teams frankly) gets their shots and the way we get ours is very noticeable IMO. Not every possession but, many times they are able to dribble into a mid range shot. Or one ball screen opens up a shot. We never seem to get a shot that easily much less a good shot.
This comment reminds me of the discussions from a couple years ago, when people were angry about us taking too many "2-point jumpers". :)
 
Kipper just had one of his best games this year. AJ is the only guy out there that can defend without fouling and has added some to his offensive game. Blame Kipper at times, but AJ is part of the solution, it's a shame this year is how his career will end.
AJ might end up being an hell of a coach, in which case this year may go very far in helping him pursue that...a lot can be learned. He is exactly the type of person to get positives from this season if you can imo....agreed though from just a playing standpoint and career, it sucks.