It's 100% not Michael.
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Well played, indeed :thumb:
illynifan34
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If this scenario is true it shows a level of understanding and competence that I didn't expect.
Perfect! Let's roll.
IlliniOX08
- Bucktown, Chicago
Called it back on page 94.
Reading that, you basically called that Whitman will be a disaster. Why do you think that?
I'm guessing one last push for Tiley before its Whitman. Which I have no problem with either way.
Maybe so, except the last part. Assuming it is Whitman, the intriguing thing about him is that there is a whole range of potential outcomes there. He's a complete wildcard. All we really know about him at this point is that he seems brilliant enough and charismatic enough to succeed in pretty much any job he wants. Apparently the job he wants was to be the Athletic Director at the U of I. What happens next -- anyone's guess.
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Someone with proven success at something above Division 3?
IlliniOX08
- Bucktown, Chicago
Not sure if he will be a disaster, certainly not on the level of Tom Michael. IMO, I don't think Whitman is ready yet. Right now I don't think the program needs to be taking a huge risk on a boom or bust type candidate primarily b/c he's "an Illini guy".
If the search committee isn't going to run an actual national search (they brought in candidates for window dressing only it seems) then Illinois needs either a home run hire - George or Tiley or someone to steady the ship and clean up the nonsense which I believe is a Sean Frazier type hire.
If Whitman is brought in and fails, the pit of despair we are in now will seem like the good old days. Now he could very well come in and be the boom type candidate some see him as and I'll eat crow. I just don't know if the program can take that kind of risk.
I'll have my doubts but have hope for whoever gets hired to succeed. There are certainly candidates that I will be taking a wait and see approach with before contributing anything further than fan support though.
I had heard that it would be Whitman when I posted on page 53 that "news should be dropping shortly." Since then, this thing has clearly gone off the rails. That being said, I'd be happy with Whitman if they have indeed now circled back to him. I see a person with tremendous potential.
When people ask about the difference between Whitman and Michael, its very simple to me. Michael is extremely unimpressive. Look at the video posted a few pages back. Whitman, on the other hand, has been ultra competent in every task he's undertaken. He's an incredibly smart guy. The two are miles apart for me.
When people ask about the difference between Whitman and Michael, its very simple to me. Michael is extremely unimpressive. Look at the video posted a few pages back. Whitman, on the other hand, has been ultra competent in every task he's undertaken. He's an incredibly smart guy. The two are miles apart for me.
And as comparison to Michael, people will forget Whitman has very little experience for this position.
mattcoldagelli
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You mean.....Dick Whitman?
I have no issue with Whitman. But after all this time and names. It now feels like a fail.
Whitman has a chance to be great. His floor is probably "good." He seems too much of a natural to completely bomb at the job.
I think it makes a ton of sense to bet early on someone you think can be great especially when we're no longer at a point where we can attract an established heavy hitter. By the time Whitman has AD experience we might not be able to get him - just like Rick George and Jim Phillips.
Sean Frazier seems like the best non-Illini name, but what has he actually accomplished? Has he made a great coaching hire? Raised tons of money?
I think it makes a ton of sense to bet early on someone you think can be great especially when we're no longer at a point where we can attract an established heavy hitter. By the time Whitman has AD experience we might not be able to get him - just like Rick George and Jim Phillips.
Sean Frazier seems like the best non-Illini name, but what has he actually accomplished? Has he made a great coaching hire? Raised tons of money?
Well played :thumb:
Good thinking. Good answers.
But, I changed my outlook of just who this University could attract when we chose the third and fourth options in the last two big hires of coaching. It wasn't because we didn't want more, it was a case of where we stood in the views from the outside. This case could strengthen that view.
mattcoldagelli
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We'll be well-versed in this by the time our upcoming football and basketball coaching searches conclude.
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Not sure how you can state that, when we artificially limited ourselves to "Ex Illini." Well, yeah, we threw a couple outside names on the list that felt clearly like names from the search firm to make it look like they earned their money.
Did we actually try to attract or pursue an established heavy hitter?
At first I thought "pleasestopwiththisnonsenseyouarereallygettingonmynerves,"
but now I'm leaning toward
Pretty Shield. Whitman Tabbed- Nine Years. Athletic Resurgence Guaranteed (Obviously, Medication Needed).
I'm projecting this based on our recent coaching searches and the overall state of the DIA. If we can't attract a Power 5 football or basketball coach (like we used to regularly do) why would we be able to attract a national heavy hitter AD to this situation? It's just an educated guess though.
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