The Illinois Coaching Staff

#51
As in the evaluation/star rating thing.

I don’t know either name but I like young, hungry guys and they both appear to be that so in that regard I think we did well. That said, if this is a part of a broad strategy to emphasize the GA/ATL as priority recruiting, then our HC still has yet to figure out how successful recruiting works.
I agree with you in general, but Lovies celebrity status holds weight across Georgia (particularly well in Atlanta And well in rural Georgia). We haven’t had success in Illinois or the surrounding area, non missouri. With rod moving to Indiana and our status in the other surrounding areas, I can tell you he is making a leveraged bet. Time will tell If his bet plays well and I know your stance on the decision .
 
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#52
I agree with you in general, but Lovies celebrity status holds weight across Georgia (particularly well in Atlanta And well in rural Georgia). We haven’t had success in Illinois or the surrounding area. With rod moving to Indiana and our status in the other surrounding areas, I can tell you he is making a leveraged bet. Time will tell If his bet plays well and I know your stance on the decision .
Lovie’s “status”, whatever that is, doesn’t matter to those kids the same way it doesn’t in TX which is his actual home state. Those kids get offers from coaches with names bigger than his.

Prioritizing that area won’t work.
 
#53
Official: https://fightingillini.com/news/2020/1/17/illinois-announces-football-coaching-moves.aspx

I wish these guys good luck. It would be great if they could bring in a quality transfer or two on the D-line. The performance of their units will be the key determinant in whether next year's team can progress from this year's results.
Thanks for sharing that link. These guys look solid to me. And I'm glad Keynodo gets all the DBs. But hearing Lovie mention recruiting with both of these guys suggests he has learned important lessons on that front. I hope they do great and absolutely love being Illini!
 
#56
"Young and hungry" sounds like we've established a coaching pipeline after Austin Clark's departure. As It's always sunny in Philly fan alluded to the pay raise's a Big D perception move. Recruiting coache's just as important as recruiting players. Talent will bring in talent
 
#57
Lovie’s “status”, whatever that is, doesn’t matter to those kids the same way it doesn’t in TX which is his actual home state. Those kids get offers from coaches with names bigger than his.

Prioritizing that area won’t work.
I don't see the problem with continuing our texas pipeline and also bringing in a fertile ground like Atlanta into the mix. Won't get the top guys but I'll be glad with 2nd tier in that region. Our biggest quarles with the coaching staff has been recruiting, and now that we're making steps to fix that we should be skeptical?
 
#58
I don't see the problem with continuing our texas pipeline and also bringing in a fertile ground like Atlanta into the mix. Won't get the top guys but I'll be glad with 2nd tier in that region. Our biggest quarles with the coaching staff has been recruiting, and now that we're making steps to fix that we should be skeptical?
We don’t have a TX pipeline.

You can walk a thousand steps a day on a treadmill and never actually go anywhere. The steps we take need to be headed in the right direction. That direction is not ATL/GA.
 
#59
I don't see the problem with continuing our texas pipeline and also bringing in a fertile ground like Atlanta into the mix. Won't get the top guys but I'll be glad with 2nd tier in that region. Our biggest quarles with the coaching staff has been recruiting, and now that we're making steps to fix that we should be skeptical?
twangers is saying, something like, research shows that Successful recruiting for almost every university happens with border states. He disagrees with the notion that Illinois will establish effective enough relationships with that area.
 
#60
twangers is saying, something like, research shows that Successful recruiting for almost every university happens with border states. He disagrees with the notion that Illinois will establish effective enough relationships with that area.
Universities in the Midwest primarily and more to our case programs that lack a national footprint. The metrics go back over a decade.

Lovie had put forth a misguided approach to recruiting early in his tenure, an ATL/GA strategy will follow suit. It won’t work.

But, that doesn’t mean these guys can’t coach.
 
#62
Universities in the Midwest primarily and more to our case programs that lack a national footprint. The metrics go back over a decade.

Lovie had put forth a misguided approach to recruiting early in his tenure, an ATL/GA strategy will follow suit. It won’t work.

But, that doesn’t mean these guys can’t coach.
I get what you're saying but I want to awake the "sleeping" dragon that's Illinois by being able to grab recruits from fertile grounds while also keeping up our efforts in the areas we've focused on to this point. However as long as we get wins I could care less where they come from
 
#63
South Carolina
We don’t have a TX pipeline.

You can walk a thousand steps a day on a treadmill and never actually go anywhere. The steps we take need to be headed in the right direction. That direction is not ATL/GA.
Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, FSU, Georgia Tech and the great majority of the other SEC schools...........

I don't see much value in prioritizing the ATL area.. We aren't going to steal kids from those programs. I'd focus on making inroads with 50% of the Top 30 from Chicago and STL.
 
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#64
Clemson, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, FSU, Georgia Tech and the great majority of the other SEC schools...........

I don't see much value in prioritizing the ATL area.. We aren't going to steal kids from those programs. I'd focus on making inroads with 50% of the Top 30 from Chicago and STL.
There’s no value in it.

50% is too high but your overall premise is correct.
 
#67
you feel me, dog?
Elmhurst
The jury is way, way out on these hires. I certainly think both of these young guys are hungry and will get after it, recruiting-wise. But, on face value, pretty underwhelming adds.
 
#69
Young hungry guys has been thrown around here. I love that. @Gritty would always say what he wanted in a coach was his career depending on what he did at Illinois, like PJ Fleck at Minnesota. This is a great opportunity for these young guys and their futures can be heavily impacted by their time here. So they should be very motivated to succeed. I am content
 
#70
The jury is way, way out on these hires. I certainly think both of these young guys are hungry and will get after it, recruiting-wise. But, on face value, pretty underwhelming adds.
I actually like this move, Lovie is building his legacy. He is bringing in young guys that are going to work tirelessly and he wants to mold them do they fit within his coaching tree. If I didn’t think the guys could do it, I would agree. But I think these are the kind of guys you want. Davis who is willing to stick it out and be patient (and this provides stability). And Lindsey who has produced NFL players from non power 5 programs and has recruiting chops.

I like these hires and I understand they are not the big splash hires that some would like to see.

To twangers point. These moves show that we are going to look to create pipelines across non-border state lines. Whether or not this works will be apparent in this next class. I actually like the risk. I think Newton, spann, riggins showed the coaching staff that Lovie has inroads to a particular type of player (where they are from) and I like testing this water. I think it aims to capitalize on Lovies brand. Not sure Chicago or the burbs will be fruitful for us whole Lovie is coach. But it is a risk
 
#71
Young hungry guys has been thrown around here. I love that. @Gritty would always say what he wanted in a coach was his career depending on what he did at Illinois, like PJ Fleck at Minnesota. This is a great opportunity for these young guys and their futures can be heavily impacted by their time here. So they should be very motivated to succeed. I am content
Very nicely put. A well paying position at a P5 school is a golden opportunity for a coach in their positions. Let's hope they make the most of it. Seeing an Austin Clark move to the NFL after occupying a similar position for only 2 years has to be a huge positive.
 
#74
Some thoughts, could be wrong...
Guessing new asst will work with Rod for Indy territory (Lindsey, WKU might have some connections?
Young guys will be good (better than older guys) getting into ILL and Indy areas, should keep grinding and build relationships over time, hopefully.
Need to build recruiting through local prospects, but existing connections will hopefully lead to under recruited prospects from other areas.