Really disappointing the way that the university has handled the track and cross country programs since Wieneke and Buford Bailey have left. Both programs have shown that they could be very competitive in the past but they've deteriorated badly since.Darn, I didn't realize that Jake Stewart left to coach at Gonzaga
He had really turned the distance program around. Does anyone know what happened? I guess maybe he just wanted to return to his home state (he's from Washington).
Why can't Illinois have nice things?
https://fightingillini.com/news/201...k-names-haveman-head-cross-country-coach.aspx
Darn, I didn't realize that Jake Stewart left to coach at Gonzaga
He had really turned the distance program around. Does anyone know what happened? I guess maybe he just wanted to return to his home state (he's from Washington).
Why can't Illinois have nice things?
https://fightingillini.com/news/201...k-names-haveman-head-cross-country-coach.aspx
I think with Turk and the way the staff is aligned now, we will see things improve in the Team format. In the past few years you had different coaching philosophies going against each other. Now I believe they are all on the same page with the same vision for the programs.Really disappointing the way that the university has handled the track and cross country programs since Wieneke and Buford Bailey have left. Both programs have shown that they could be very competitive in the past but they've deteriorated badly since.
I'm gonna post some of my thoughts, sorry if it's a bit long. For what it's worth: I'm in my Sophmore season of XC at the high school level and a couple weeks ago I went to the camp. I didn't really think anything was wrong with Coach Haveman; she did a fine job with the stress of running the camp unexpectedly after Coach Stewart left.I honestly don't know much about Haveman.
There is no plan to redshirt Davis this year or next, that I know of. A lot of positive things to say about Jesse though, I think he will surprise a lot of people with his performances. He was on the highest mileage week of anyone that was a counselor at camp at 100. I think Jesse is going to be in the best shape of his life this year. He has a really good mindset and he was one of the nicest guys I've ever talked to, super positive. Jon was on an 80 mile week. He should be in great shape this year especially after his 3:58.46 mile in track. I also talked to Dan. Not sure what kind of mileage he put in but he seems to be ready for the year. By the way, don't forget about Jack Lalonde. He was putting in a lot of miles at camp, and had a freshman XC 10k at 29:49. All in all, I think they should compete for a Big Ten title and qualify for nationals.She has a lot to work with on the guys side. I assume Davis won't redshirt this XC season so we can put a team of him and Reiser, Smith, Lathrop, Magnesen (I think they all have one year left), and Dale out there. That should be a national qualifying team.
I think the incoming freshmen will surprise some. It sucks to miss out on Danny Kilrea and Dylan Jacobs as they both go off to Notre Dame. However, the two kids in that class that could surprise are Logan Hall and Wyatt McIntyre. Both are 1A, small school kids that I've gotten to race against as I'm in a small school as well. Logan has a 3 mile of best of 14:24 on road (St Joe Spartan Classic which I got to run in, insanely fast course) and Wyatt posted a 14:25 at Detweiller. The thing I think is underlooked is the amount of resources they will have after making the jump from a small school to a large university. Training plans will be more efficient, nutrition will be improved, and insanely high competition compared to what they faced in HS. I wouldn't surprised if they were both Sub 30 in the 10k in a couple years. For a comparison, Dan Lathrop only ran a 14:48 at Detweiler his Senior year and a 4:18 in the 1600, but last year as a Redshirt Junior he ran 30:00.9 in an XC 10k and a 14:02 5k on the track. Logan has a PR of 14:30 on Detweiler and a 4:16 1600. Things can really change in a few years of good training. If they can go out and get a top runner like Davis (Tommy Brady if he has a good senior year, maybe? Haven't heard much about his college recruitment), they could have some decent teams for the future.see who develops in the rebuild year
Definitely lolThe women's team needs a fair bit of work.
Do you know if Dylan Jacobs is any relation to former Illini great Jeff?I'm gonna post some of my thoughts, sorry if it's a bit long. For what it's worth: I'm in my Sophmore season of XC at the high school level and a couple weeks ago I went to the camp. I didn't really think anything was wrong with Coach Haveman; she did a fine job with the stress of running the camp unexpectedly after Coach Stewart left.
There is no plan to redshirt Davis this year or next, that I know of. A lot of positive things to say about Jesse though, I think he will surprise a lot of people with his performances. He was on the highest mileage week of anyone that was a counselor at camp at 100. I think Jesse is going to be in the best shape of his life this year. He has a really good mindset and he was one of the nicest guys I've ever talked to, super positive. Jon was on an 80 mile week. He should be in great shape this year especially after his 3:58.46 mile in track. I also talked to Dan. Not sure what kind of mileage he put in but he seems to be ready for the year. By the way, don't forget about Jack Lalonde. He was putting in a lot of miles at camp, and had a freshman XC 10k at 29:49. All in all, I think they should compete for a Big Ten title and qualify for nationals.
I think the incoming freshmen will surprise some. It sucks to miss out on Danny Kilrea and Dylan Jacobs as they both go off to Notre Dame. However, the two kids in that class that could surprise are Logan Hall and Wyatt McIntyre. Both are 1A, small school kids that I've gotten to race against as I'm in a small school as well. Logan has a 3 mile of best of 14:24 on road (St Joe Spartan Classic which I got to run in, insanely fast course) and Wyatt posted a 14:25 at Detweiller. The thing I think is underlooked is the amount of resources they will have after making the jump from a small school to a large university. Training plans will be more efficient, nutrition will be improved, and insanely high competition compared to what they faced in HS. I wouldn't surprised if they were both Sub 30 in the 10k in a couple years. For a comparison, Dan Lathrop only ran a 14:48 at Detweiler his Senior year and a 4:18 in the 1600, but last year as a Redshirt Junior he ran 30:00.9 in an XC 10k and a 14:02 5k on the track. Logan has a PR of 14:30 on Detweiler and a 4:16 1600. Things can really change in a few years of good training. If they can go out and get a top runner like Davis (Tommy Brady if he has a good senior year, maybe? Haven't heard much about his college recruitment), they could have some decent teams for the future.
Definitely lol
There is no relation, although Jeff's son Ryan did attend Notre Dame himselfDo you know if Dylan Jacobs is any relation to former Illini great Jeff?
It looks like Tonja Buford-Bailey is out at Texas. I wonder if they could bring her back to Illinois. Does anyone know what her plans are?
Also, it's weird what happened to Karen Harvey. She quit FSU suddenly in 2015 and hasn't coached since then. She's currently working for a non-profit in Nashville, I believe.
Those programs have never recovered since they respectively left. If I were the athletics director at Illinois, I'd be trying to bring those two back and we'd be talking about having nationally-elite teams in women's track & field and cross-country.
Harvey is very intense, in both the good and the bad ways. Unless she has mellowed in her ways since she left FSU, I don't see her being successful with today's athletes. Her training style is going out of style and her interpersonal skills would be a headache for the AD.
Does anyone know why Wyatt Mcintyre isn't on either the cross country or track rosters?
I checked the XC roster and he was on there
Hall has been very solid so far; we have done a good job with under the radar 1A runners. too bad Davis is outhttp://www.cfpitiming.com/2018_Cros...erbilt_XC_2018/Vanderbilt_xc_invite_2018.html
Men didn't run the A team, holding back Reiser and Smith. Good runs by Magnesen and Hall though.
Women actually look decent, taking 2nd with all Freshman and Sophomores. Impressive debut for Marasco, 9th overall and first Illini. I thought she was more of an 800 runner in HS. Ohio State won, and looks like they were holding back.