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Old Oct 9, 2017, 09:05 PM   #1451
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I thought so about Carlwell - and now that you mention it, i remember that about Charles Jackson. Didn't he actually end up moving from hoops to football for UI, only to then transfer?

You mention E'Twaun Moore as a miss - if my memory serves me correctly on his recruitment (or at least rumors on message boards at the time) Moore was longing for a UI offer that never came?
I believe Robbie Hummel was the one that wanted the offer. Pretty sure Moore had an offer, but Illinois stopped recruiting him once Gordon committed. IIRC would have had a really good shot at Moore too.
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Old Oct 9, 2017, 09:06 PM   #1452
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Yeah.....I think we're going to see more frequent rotations with Underwood than with Groce or Weber. The days of relying on one or two key players to play 36+ minutes are probably over.
I certainly hope we go deep in the rotation - i'd like to see at least 9 guys get 15+ minutes - i love the idea of uptempo basketball.

I just want to point out that when Groce was hired, that's what everyone said we were getting with him

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Old Oct 9, 2017, 09:11 PM   #1453
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There is likely 0% chance of that happening. They already have 2 SF/wings committed and I believe they're out of scholarships, so they'd have to clear a space for Ayo. So not sure they'd over-sign by 2.
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Old Oct 9, 2017, 09:19 PM   #1454
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I believe Robbie Hummel was the one that wanted the offer. Pretty sure Moore had an offer, but Illinois stopped recruiting him once Gordon committed. IIRC would have had a really good shot at Moore too.
Maybe my failed me as far as Moore longing for an offer - but I certainly agree, if IDKWTI just reopens his recruitment sooner, i think Moore may have been an Illini. Past is the Past

Lets get the Finn on Wed, Ayo on Sunday, and Landers next week. After going O-fer last week, i know - ambitious!

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Old Oct 9, 2017, 10:57 PM   #1455
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Things Tucson has going for it that Phoenix does not:
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler
  • No so much freaking concrete
  • Slightly more rain
  • I live here
  • So many artillery-sized potholes that you are guaranteed to destroy your tires before the warranty is up, so basically free tires for life
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler



Also back on topic, has anyone heard anything about BPJ recently? is there even any premium info about him that you guys can't share specifically but can at least share its existence?
I'm a Phoenix guy all the way, for many reasons, but to add a couple items in Tucson's favor:

- The Catalina's are a way more spectacular backdrop than anything in Phoenix, plus you can take an amazingly scenic drive to the top where it's another 20+ degrees cooler.
- Saguaro National Park is right there
- The airplane graveyard and air museum are pretty awesome

That said, I'll take Phoenix all day everyday.

To stay on topic, let's get two commits in the next two weeks and make this an October to remember!

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 05:04 AM   #1456
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The old days are over. Time for people to move on about talking about Carlwell and McCamey and who cares. Ayo is visiting this weekend and probably committing to Illinois next week. Let the landslide begin. Be excited for the future. The past doesn't matter.
I understand you probably just mean in terms of past recruiting, but be careful of "the past doesn't matter" statements...you're gonna rub some of us old timers the wrong way.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 05:58 AM   #1457
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Things Tucson has going for it that Phoenix does not:
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler
  • No so much freaking concrete
  • Slightly more rain
  • I live here
  • So many artillery-sized potholes that you are guaranteed to destroy your tires before the warranty is up, so basically free tires for life
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler
  • 5 to 8 degrees cooler

But more importantly, can it drive to its left?

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 06:32 AM   #1458
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But more importantly, can it drive to its left?
Doesn't matter, it's going to Iowa St. I don't care though because Tucson isn't a fit in BU's offense.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 06:43 AM   #1459
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When it comes to Valtonen, forget location. What makes more of a difference is educational status and the UIUC is recognized as a world-class university, ranked 36th in The World University Rankings (ASU is ranked 131). That might be an important factor to Valtonen's parents, and a point that I'm sure BU will push. Of course, it's not the main factor, but the Finns place a high value on education and it could be a more important consideration than in the typical recruitment.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:03 AM   #1460
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When it comes to Valtonen, forget location. What makes more of a difference is educational status and the UIUC is recognized as a world-class university, ranked 36th in The World University Rankings (ASU is ranked 131). That might be an important factor to Valtonen's parents, and a point that I'm sure BU will push. Of course, it's not the main factor, but the Finns place a high value on education and it could be a more important consideration than in the typical recruitment.
Also people from other countries just assume U of I is in Chicago and people love Chicago.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:25 AM   #1461
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Doesn't matter, it's going to Iowa St. I don't care though because Tucson isn't a fit in BU's offense.
I think you're onto something.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:43 AM   #1462
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Also people from other countries just assume U of I is in Chicago and people love Chicago.
Wait a second... it's NOT?!

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:43 AM   #1463
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When it comes to Valtonen, forget location. What makes more of a difference is educational status and the UIUC is recognized as a world-class university, ranked 36th in The World University Rankings (ASU is ranked 131). That might be an important factor to Valtonen's parents, and a point that I'm sure BU will push. Of course, it's not the main factor, but the Finns place a high value on education and it could be a more important consideration than in the typical recruitment.
I believe I've read that Finland has the best education system in the world. It's a conscious choice to plan, run and pay for the best anything. U of I ranking will likely matter. Will it carry the day? All by itself? Doubt it. But still helpful

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:54 AM   #1464
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Evans' twitter tuesday includes a paragraph on THT. Says no official to ILL solidified, which I guess is better than saying no official official to Illinois.

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 07:55 AM   #1465
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Also people from other countries just assume U of I is in Chicago and people love Chicago.
I've traveled to Europe extensively throughout the last two decades and I'd say Chicago is relatively unknown compared to New York and LA.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:00 AM   #1466
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Evans' twitter tuesday includes a paragraph on THT. Says no official to ILL solidified, which I guess is better than saying no official official to Illinois.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....ker-saddiq-bey
Likely the 20th
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:22 AM   #1467
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Likely the 20th


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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:26 AM   #1468
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So if you grew up in the cold and snow of Finland and you come to the U.S. having the option of playing in the cornfields of Illinois or the palm trees of Tempe Arizona, which would you pick?????
Not everyone prefers the heat. My daughter wants to stay in the top half of the country, so she can have snow. DNA test pending....
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:27 AM   #1469
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Likely the 20th
I've read elsewhere that he may decide among X, GT and Iowa State after this weekend. Hope not. He's my most coveted recruit but my hopes diminish by the week.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:34 AM   #1470
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I've read elsewhere that he may decide among X, GT and Iowa State after this weekend. Hope not. He's my most coveted recruit but my hopes diminish by the week.
Xavier seems like the one to beat right now, but these ILL kids sure do seem to love Ames.

Sure hope we can get Ayo on board, and then THT will visit and follow suit.

Having Ayo, THT, and Valtonen on board in the fall sure would be nice.

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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:39 AM   #1471
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I see what you did there. Love it!
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:44 AM   #1472
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Xavier seems like the one to beat right now, but these ILL kids sure do seem to love Ames.

If not getting THT means that we get Ayo, then I am okay with it.
The Ayo decision will determine if this recruiting year is a success or not
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 08:56 AM   #1473
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I've traveled to Europe extensively throughout the last two decades and I'd say Chicago is relatively unknown compared to New York and LA.
I grew up in Eastern Europe and everybody new about Chicago because of Michael Jordan.

That was in the 90's and early 2000's, though, so I can't speak for more recent years.

Not saying you're wrong, though...NYC and LA could be more well-known than Chicago, but that doesn't mean Chicago isn't also well known.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 09:08 AM   #1474
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I've traveled to Europe extensively throughout the last two decades and I'd say Chicago is relatively unknown compared to New York and LA.
For some reason, mentioning Chicago usually gets a reaction along the lines of "Oh yeah, Al Capone. Bang. Bang." Hopefully, the young man likes shiny black cars and tommy guns. If so, he's ours.
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Old Oct 10, 2017, 09:27 AM   #1475
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I've traveled to Europe extensively throughout the last two decades and I'd say Chicago is relatively unknown compared to New York and LA.
Fortunately, Arizona State is in neither New York nor L.A. And everyone in Europe has heard of Chicago. Few of them likely know where exactly Arizona is, and none of them have heard of Tempe.

"Chicago! BANG BANG Al Capone!"
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