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Old Oct 11, 2017, 04:16 PM   #1626
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From what I know (which is essentially nothing), that just comes from rumors.
Was alot of tweets after THT left Mac Irvin fire , not any that came from Ayo. I'm sure Irvins at the time , not happy about situation, made comments sounded like it was his loss, THT, that he left.
THT made off hand comments in tweets many months ago that he might not end up on same team as Ayo. Was just a tweet, and many ran with it. Don't think he and Ayo have had any ill will with each other, but that all came about because he left the team.

Ayo should be all that concerns the staff , he has been #1 focus for long time. THT said a long time ago, he was taking his time in his commit. If they have an issue with each other, they will have to work it out. We want the best players to come to here, that want to be here. AYO commits, IMO, really matters less whatever else happens.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 04:52 PM   #1627
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Really thought we would be hearing something about yesterday’s visit by now.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:19 PM   #1628
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Really thought we would be hearing something about yesterday’s visit by now.
Valtonen's visit lasts until tomorrow. We'll hear something then. And he got in about 5pm last night.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:22 PM   #1629
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I can recall the day when we talked about "closing the deal over pancakes" before recruits left campus. Any chance with EV?
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:29 PM   #1630
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Valtonen's visit lasts until tomorrow. We'll hear something then. And he got in about 5pm last night.
Here let me help....
'It was a great visit. I really liked the players and coaches. They showed me how I would fit in and develop as a player. '
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:30 PM   #1631
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Here let me help....
'It was a great visit. I really liked the players and coaches. They showed me how I would fit in and develop as a player. '
"But the women...definitely not as hot as Arizona State. I was disappointed by that."
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:38 PM   #1632
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Really thought we would be hearing something about yesterday’s visit by now.
Here's a pic from today
https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/sta...38570632089600
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:52 PM   #1633
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Valtonen's visit lasts until tomorrow. We'll hear something then. And he got in about 5pm last night.
Ok thanks. I thought it was just Tuesday.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:52 PM   #1634
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"But the women...definitely not as hot as Arizona State. I was disappointed by that."
Except for that one girl...I could stare at her All dayya...
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 05:57 PM   #1635
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Here let me help....
'It was a great visit. I really liked the players and coaches. They showed me how I would fit in and develop as a player. '
POTD

(where were all the posts today? unusually low amount of posts today)
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 06:16 PM   #1636
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I can recall the day when we talked about "closing the deal over pancakes" before recruits left campus. Any chance with EV?

Gotta give John Groce credit -- he is a very dynamic and charismatic guy, and it's easy to see why he closed the deal with Nunn, Black, and others during some of those early recruiting wins. I don't think Underwood has that same dynamism, and I wouldn't expect him to blow the socks off of recruits and their parents with his charismatic appeal right off the bat. So in that sense, i don't envision nearly as many commits during official visits.

Groce's problem, however, was that the appeal and charisma only went so far. After a few seasons of losing, the luster was gone. I'm not the least bit concerned about that happening to Underwood, and I expect recruiting to improve with time whereas it deteriorated with time under Groce.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 06:20 PM   #1637
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Gotta give John Groce credit -- he is a very dynamic and charismatic guy, and it's easy to see why he closed the deal with Nunn, Black, and others during some of those early recruiting wins. I don't think Underwood has that same dynamism, and I wouldn't expect him to blow the socks off of recruits and their parents with his charismatic appeal right off the bat. So in that sense, i don't envision nearly as many commits during official visits.

Groce's problem, however, was that the appeal and charisma only went so far. After a few seasons of losing, the luster was gone. I'm not the least bit concerned about that happening to Underwood, and I expect recruiting to improve with time whereas it deteriorated with time under Groce.
I concur, great post
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 07:30 PM   #1638
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Having guys like Bill Cole committing to ILL after our great run is the reason we stink today. "Good role player". Please he started here over J Rich.
Cole was a senior. Richmond averaged more minutes per game.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 07:39 PM   #1639
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wasnt bill cole the guy that liked the Civil War a lot
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:16 PM   #1640
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Gotta give John Groce credit -- he is a very dynamic and charismatic guy, and it's easy to see why he closed the deal with Nunn, Black, and others during some of those early recruiting wins. I don't think Underwood has that same dynamism, and I wouldn't expect him to blow the socks off of recruits and their parents with his charismatic appeal right off the bat. So in that sense, i don't envision nearly as many commits during official visits.

Groce's problem, however, was that the appeal and charisma only went so far. After a few seasons of losing, the luster was gone. I'm not the least bit concerned about that happening to Underwood, and I expect recruiting to improve with time whereas it deteriorated with time under Groce.
Groce's problem was that his charisma didn't work with any quality PG targets. If you don't have a quality PG, you waste the talent of the other players.

Obviously he also just wasn't a good coach.
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:34 PM   #1641
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Groce's problem was that his charisma didn't work with any quality PG targets. If you don't have a quality PG, you waste the talent of the other players.

[B]Obviously he also just wasn't a good coach.

This
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:35 PM   #1642
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My source is telling me The Finn is committing before the 17th.


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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:41 PM   #1643
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Very optimistic about Ayo. Have a friend that is around their program. I couldn't get many details, but he says he would be genuinely surprised if he chose Wake.

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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:42 PM   #1644
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Gotta give John Groce credit -- he is a very dynamic and charismatic guy, and it's easy to see why he closed the deal with Nunn, Black, and others during some of those early recruiting wins. I don't think Underwood has that same dynamism, and I wouldn't expect him to blow the socks off of recruits and their parents with his charismatic appeal right off the bat. So in that sense, i don't envision nearly as many commits during official visits.

Groce's problem, however, was that the appeal and charisma only went so far. After a few seasons of losing, the luster was gone. I'm not the least bit concerned about that happening to Underwood, and I expect recruiting to improve with time whereas it deteriorated with time under Groce.
Deteriorated? Groce had a good class coming in when he got fired. Tilmon and Frazier, plus closing in on Smith. Just another example that winning isn't necessary for recruiting. But it sure does help.

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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:50 PM   #1645
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Very optimistic about Ayo. Have a friend that is around their program. I couldn't get many details, but he says he would be genuinely surprised if he chose Wake.


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My source is telling me The Finn is committing before the 17th.


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I hope you guys/gals are right. I would be very happy with both of these guys in O&B!
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:51 PM   #1646
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My source is telling me The Finn is committing before the 17th.


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Committing to whom???
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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:54 PM   #1647
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Committing to whom???


Put in it In the books guy. We have locked down the Finn. He will be an Illini before the 17th. He will be announcing on his time. It's a good day to be an Illini fan.


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Old Oct 11, 2017, 08:58 PM   #1648
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Put in it In the books guy. We have locked down the Finn. He will be an Illini before the 17th. He will be announcing on his time. It's a good day to be an Illini fan.


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Loyalty at dark strikes again. Hopefully you're right, and this gets the ball rolling.


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Old Oct 11, 2017, 09:00 PM   #1649
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Loyalty at dark strikes again. Hopefully you're right, and this gets the ball rolling.


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It will be the 1st domino. Ayo will hopefully the next. Not hearing good stuff on THT from my sources. Also hearing Finke is an easy fall back plan and will commit if wanted.


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Old Oct 11, 2017, 09:04 PM   #1650
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Put in it In the books guy. We have locked down the Finn. He will be an Illini before the 17th. He will be announcing on his time. It's a good day to be an Illini fan.


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The lack of is oddly encouraging.
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