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Old May 14, 2017, 01:28 AM   #926
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From the game footage I have seen of EJ and JT, EJ does a much better job of getting involved in the game. He doesn't need the offense to run through him to score whereas JT does, and if he doesn't get the ball, will disappear for large stretches. EJ also is more agile and explosive.

For JT if he gets the ball with time and space, he's gonna score. The problem is teams double him, and he doesn't pass well out of the double team and either turns it over or allows the defense enough time to recover.

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Old May 14, 2017, 08:16 AM   #927
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whoa - Mike Irvin is so irate at the lack of boxing out by his 'bigs' the refs are laughing during the timeout and you can hear Mike over the background noise. Fire up by 2, THT back on the floor.
MS up by 9. Bagley is back, but really, besides him, it's a pretty lackluster team and he can't dunk every time down the floor.
MTR (or anybody), how do you think the Irvins are as coaches? I know how everyone here feels about their self promotion but what about their developing prospects. Do they just get the most talented players and let them play of do they also develop them?

I ask because from your reports it seem like they are set off by important things such lack of boxing out or THT picking up stupid offensive fouls forcing him to sit.
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:37 AM   #928
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Unfortunately (or fortunately for some) I missed all of today's games. So I'm just going to post some tweets I've seen. Looks like I've missed some good performances.

EJ had 5 points. 1 rebound, 2 blocks
http://www.d1circuit.com/game/show/1...bseason=380949
D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 1h1 hour ago
Bradley Beal Elite (MO) F Francis Okoro (@chibestfrank88): 17 PTS, 14 REB in a win over Rotary @STLEaglesBBall
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 3h3 hours ago
High-low action with Liddell & Okoro. EJ takes a dribble in to draw the defense, lobs it over top & Francis flushes it home.
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 3h3 hours ago
.@EasyE2432 is out here hurtin' people's feelings at the defensive end
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 3h3 hours ago
Couple strong finishes & another block for Liddell. Meanwhile, Okoro shows off a smooth right hook. In-state 2019s with HIGH ceilings.
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 3h3 hours ago
EJ Liddell swats one off the glass. Long arms & quick off the floor. Showing he belongs playing up on 17U this weekend.
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 3h3 hours ago
Nice midrange jumper to start off the morning for Francis Okoro. Solidifying those tools to go with his athleticism will make him a problem.
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:38 AM   #929
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Corey Evans‏ @coreyevans_10 1h1 hour ago
Been an impressive morning for Talen Horton-Tucker. Not many more skilled, unique mismatch weapons in the 2018 class THT5 Retweeted
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 2h2 hours ago
Smooth spin by Talen Horton-Tucker & then a straight-line drive to the rim for a strong slam with the right hand. Want him in attack mode.
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:41 AM   #930
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Henricksen: Top 10 prospects in the Class of 2018

http://www.suntimeshighschoolsports....ts-class-2018/

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1. Ayo Dosunmu, 6-5, Morgan Park
The top player in the class and frontrunner for all postseason awards next season. With great height and length for a point guard, the 6-4 junior has lived up to the hype this spring, averaging 22.6 points a game on the highly-competitive EYBL circuit. In a class short of high-major talent, Dosunmu is a bonafide star who simply has to work on his perimeter jumper.
2. Talen Horton-Tucker, 6-4, Simeon
There was quite a bit of time when Horton-Tucker was overlooked. That’s no longer the case. He’s a bonafide high-major prospect because he can do three important things very well –– shoot, pass and dribble –– while possessing a high basketball I.Q. But that combination of creating for others and a feathery touch out to the three-point line are a deadly combination.
3. Tim Finke, 6-6, Champaign Central
Finke has been among the top prospects in the class since he entered high school. Tough, strong, competitive wing who plays hard. He can step out and knock a shot down with some range. Consistency with that shot and creating more for himself off the dribble a work in progress.

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Old May 14, 2017, 09:43 AM   #931
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Corey Evans‏ @coreyevans_10 1h1 hour ago
Been an impressive morning for Talen Horton-Tucker. Not many more skilled, unique mismatch weapons in the 2018 class THT5 Retweeted
Derek Piper‏ @DPiperScout 2h2 hours ago
Smooth spin by Talen Horton-Tucker & then a straight-line drive to the rim for a strong slam with the right hand. Want him in attack mode.
THT, Ayo, Okoro, and Liddell have got to be 4 of our highest priority guys going forward. If we can land Agau to cover C for 2 years it would be a huge bridge to the 2019 class where it looks like we will have a few more options for bigs.
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:44 AM   #932
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Finke 13 pts/3 rbs/3 assts but MS loses and goes 2-2 for the weekend.
http://www.d1circuit.com/game/show/17623019
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:45 AM   #933
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D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 37m37 minutes ago
No. 6 E1T1 United (FL) F Silvio De Sousa: 8 PTS, 10 REB, 4 BLK vs Takeover @realE1T1
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:49 AM   #934
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THT 22 pts, 7 rbs; Ayo 20 pts, 3 assts. Fire loses another game where they led at halftime or were tied or down by 1. No depth and I've harped enough on the lack of bigs on the team but no Peach Jam for MIF again. But I will still watch in the future just to see these two. They would look great in O&B and like BMo79 said, get them and add Okoro and EJ the next year and I'd love our chances with the young base we've already got.
http://www.d1circuit.com/game/show/17623022
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:52 AM   #935
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D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 2h2 hours ago
No. 1 MOKAN Elite (KS) F Malik Hall (@iammalikhall): 14 PTS, 7 REB in a win over Portland BC @MOKANBasketball
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Old May 14, 2017, 09:54 AM   #936
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UIHoopsRecruits Retweeted
NPH‏ @NorthPoleHoops 3h3 hours ago
Simi Shittu and Ignas Brazdeikis Canadian Connection Thriving Read more at http://northpolehoops.com/2017/05/14/simi-shittu-ignas-brazdeikis-canadian-connection-thriving/#UDt9z3doeOO7A15d.99 …
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Old May 14, 2017, 10:16 AM   #937
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MTR (or anybody), how do you think the Irvins are as coaches? I know how everyone here feels about their self promotion but what about their developing prospects. Do they just get the most talented players and let them play of do they also develop them?

I ask because from your reports it seem like they are set off by important things such lack of boxing out or THT picking up stupid offensive fouls forcing him to sit.
My opinion only from what I've observed. I think Nick is a very good high school coach. He was a star guard in his day and he probably coaches up guards as good as any hs coach can given the circumstances of hs ball and their coaching ability. I know he loves his kids and that is something I always look for in a hs coach. I've never heard him or heard of him cussing kids out or really reaming them in public unlike a whole lot of other coaches I've witnessed. When you hear him talk to his kids it's always positive or telling them they're doing it right.

On the bench --and I imagine in the locker room --he'll get in their face but in a way you'd want a coach to. (Refs are a different story. You never see Nick sitting in Morgan Park games unless he's gotten a T and has to sit the rest of the game -- and that happens quite a lot.) I actually think Nick is a pretty good guy which I know isn't a popular view on here.

Lance is more of a build up coach and Nick always wants him around so I trust he's at least adequate at the job.

As a coach I think Mike is a pretty good nightclub owner. He goes off a lot but it's Nick who usually talks to the kids on the sidelines of Fire games. The guy who is up and doing most of the coaching on the floor is the assistant Jimalle Ridley. And it's either Jimalle or Nick that the kids seem to look to and talk to when they're on the floor.

But that's just my take as a long time high school observer.

I like their theory of using skilled skilled perimeter shooters and then adding bigs solely to rebound and put back. Except when they had Josh Cunningham, I don't they've ever had plays designed for the bigs to do anything but box out and clean up hence why Mike gets so upset when they don't.

It makes for an exciting game, but can bite them in the butt when their main perimeter shooter has a bad night like Charlie did against Lincoln Way West in the supers two years ago and the supporting guys also don't come through -- or look panicked, like in that game.

That game was still close in the 4th quarter but MP's other guards acted like they were down by 20. And it hurts them in EYBL because every team they've faced has had superior inside play -- some of it vastly superior.

Again, just my take on things Irvin. I'm sure others have a different one.

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Old May 14, 2017, 10:54 AM   #938
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UIHoopsRecruits Retweeted
D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 8m8 minutes ago
CIA Bounce (CAN) F Ignas Brazdeikis (@_iggy_7): 25 PTS, 8 REB, 2 AST vs Stampede @BounceTTCaau
D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 18m18 minutes ago
Nike South Beach (FL) G Darius Days (@Almighty_Doubl3): 18 PTS, 9 REB, 2 BLK in a win over X Elite @NikeSouthBeach
D1 Circuit‏ @D1Circuit 14m14 minutes ago
MEBO Team Hood (MS) G DJ Stewart (@djstewart187): 16 PTS, 2 REB, 2 AST vs NTF @msexpressbball
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Old May 14, 2017, 11:16 AM   #939
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https://itsovertime.com/p/iANa.B.Lp
this is the play Piper tweeted about. Forget the Kezo Brown stuff, it's THT.
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Old May 14, 2017, 12:21 PM   #940
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Need big this year and enough scholarships for Dosunmu, THT and DeSousa next year. Agau seems to be only big discussed and if he doesn't get 2 yrs needs to be used on a big next year. Have mixed feelings about transfer wings as like to see the ones committed getting playing time. Trust BU to know best way to develop. Competition in practice may be more valuable than playing time? Still believe next year's success will be determined by the defense as we still have strong offensive weapons.
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Old May 14, 2017, 12:30 PM   #941
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Would really love to get Brazdeikis. Kid always fills up the stats.

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Old May 14, 2017, 12:35 PM   #942
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Would really love to get Brazdeikis. Kid always fills up the stats.
Agreed, would love to have him reclassify. De Sousa would be a huge get as well.
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Old May 14, 2017, 01:26 PM   #943
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....notes-and-news

Mentions us with Kofi Cockburn and DJ Stewart. Always a surprise when Bossi mentions us with anybody.
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Old May 14, 2017, 10:32 PM   #944
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This kid is getting some interest? Still available?

http://memphis.247sports.com/Article...tions-52750084

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4pLwKgito Listed South Florida as offering on this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aOtsE0CoK0 Trace young

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klQOOREu5oY
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Old May 14, 2017, 10:59 PM   #945
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Good find AZ. Trace Young definitely shows as a talented kid both above the rim and showed good outside touch and passing in the video clips.
On the linked article...not sure on reference to "not immediately eligible"; more to the story obviously. I think we would meet his needs on his fan base desires.
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Old May 15, 2017, 07:06 AM   #946
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Good find AZ. Trace Young definitely shows as a talented kid both above the rim and showed good outside touch and passing in the video clips.
On the linked article...not sure on reference to "not immediately eligible"; more to the story obviously. I think we would meet his needs on his fan base desires.
https://future150.com/hs/basketball-...-young-sf-2017
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Old May 15, 2017, 09:16 AM   #947
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Evan Daniels‏Verified account @EvanDaniels 2h2 hours ago
5-star PG Trevon Duval commits to Duke
Evan Daniels‏Verified account @EvanDaniels 2h2 hours ago
Duke now has the No. 2 recruiting class in 2017 with the addition of Trevon Duval. They have two of the top 7 players & 3 of the top 19.
Evan Daniels‏Verified account @EvanDaniels 2h2 hours ago
This makes the fourth straight year that Duke & Kentucky have been No. 1 & No. 2 in some order in Scout's recruiting class rankings.
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Old May 15, 2017, 09:37 AM   #948
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Tilmon to mizzou.


https://twitter.com/MizzouHoops/stat...40869863165953
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Old May 15, 2017, 09:42 AM   #949
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At least the saga is over now. Now if only Iggy would reclassify to '17.
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Old May 15, 2017, 09:45 AM   #950
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Thank god. Let's get moving.
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