This might be a good time for Dan to exercise some "editorial discretion" with this thread.
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This might be a good time for Dan to exercise some "editorial discretion" with this thread.
I absolutely get your point. However, you have a nuanced understanding of the options and what different actions mean given the situation. In short, you have a better read on this than the average person would, or understand where Illinois sits much better than the average college sports fan not who is not a fan of the university. Your analysis of the release is the best possible scenario for the school. How many average sports fans/ those unconnected to the university have the knowledge and understanding to draw that same conclusion? There lies the problem, in my opinion. Creates a connection the casual or uninformed (not a follower of Illinois) fan can make without any due diligence or recognition of the situation.
Why can't we all just revel in the fact that the wicked witch of North Central Kentucky is dead??
What's the cover up wrt to UI? None, there is no cover-up and none of the accused/charged had any association with UI, and none of the events in prosecution documents had to do with UI. This is a federal case. UI has no criminal exposure.
Even in the case of BU getting accused as part of the investigation in the future (it has not happened), the worst that can happen is that UI fires him.
NEIlliniFan
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Adidas hired Tom Jurich's daughter months before $160 million deal with University of Louisville
http://www.wdrb.com/story/36464932/adidas-hired-tom-jurichs-daughter-months-before-160-million-deal-with-university-of-louisville
http://www.wdrb.com/story/36464932/adidas-hired-tom-jurichs-daughter-months-before-160-million-deal-with-university-of-louisville
NEIlliniFan
- No longer in New England
Also, just read that Auburn is offering full refunds for basketball season tickets
Tevo
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And conveniently, we have scholarships open, because of the brilliant master plan to take any commitments earlier this summer/fall!
Everything is falling into place!
I am sure she is a highly capable young lady and will perform admirably in her position as an NCAA Brand Communications Manager.
Even if Snider wasn't given cash, I thought he was rumored to be linked to all of the Katina Powell stuff. You know, the hookers.
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Assuming the above is true, it's unfortunate how this investigation will hang over her and subject her to unfair scrutiny.
sbillini
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I doubt the average sports fan/those unconnected to the university will think into the PR nearly as much as people on this board are to make the connections people are trying to make. We're all thinking wayyyyy too much into it.
This is simple. What's the downside to saying what the PR said?
1) People speculating for a while cuz they're reading things that weren't written. That MAY impact recruiting for a while (I think even that's a stretch). Eventually nothing comes of it and we go along our merry way.
2) There does end up being some sort of connection and BU gets implicated. He get's canned. JW can point to the PR and say "hey, we were on top of this from the beginning". It sucks for us, but takes culpability away.
What's the upside?
1) Media is going to be bugging the whole program (coaches, players, JW) about this. Instead of the coy "no comment" or, worse, saying something dumb, they just point to the PR and say move on.
Maybe the PR isn't the best option - that's wholly subjective at this point - but it's not a bad one. And, there is a small chance it may turn out to be a great one.
Moving on...
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I've confirmed #OKState associate head coach Lamont Evans voluntarily turned himself in this morning in Oklahoma City.
I've confirmed #OKState associate head coach Lamont Evans voluntarily turned himself in this morning in Oklahoma City.
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WDRB NewsVerified account @WDRBNews 59s59 seconds ago
Source: Pitino, Jurich placed on leave after meetings with U of L interim president http://bit.ly/2fs9Vwi
Source: Pitino, Jurich placed on leave after meetings with U of L interim president http://bit.ly/2fs9Vwi
*IF* Underwood has anything to hide, the Myron Piggie case illustrates the risk he's facing from Evans:
per Dan Wetzel
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The casual college basketball fan isn't going to see U of I's press release.
Crap. At an SEC school like that, that could be hundreds and hundreds of dollars of refunds. Maybe even over $1,000!
Again, not only the time at OSU. Except for the three years that BU was head coach at SFA, he has had a working relationship with Evans going back to 2008 when he was a grad asst at KState under Martin and BU. It's not as if they just met when BU took over at Stillwater. Remember that BU was Martin's lead assistant, and there is legitimate concern that BU will be implicated in these investigations. If it is discovered that Evans was instructed by an SC or OSU staff member to steer players towards a certain agent, BU could be in danger of indictment. If Evans did this on his own, and BU had no knowledge of the illegal activities, BU will be fine from a legal perspective, but he will still likely face punishment from the NCAA due to the allegations from Evans' time at OSU.
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Aside from a Head Coach, who would be the big fish for Evans to "roll up" on? He was taking money from a sports agent. Its not like his part of the scandal goes all the way up a billion dollar shoe industry.
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This, this, this. I'm surprised no one has discussed this, to be honest. We just made a statement that simultaneously won't be read by most fans (aka, most people will think that Illinois, very understandably, isn't speaking out because it has nothing to do with this scandal) and also addresses potential media scrutiny (aka, we are flatly saying we are not "keeping quiet" because we have something to hide). I personally think it is EXACTLY what we should have done.
I don’t think Illinois has much exposure to this unless Underwood himself was engaged in illegal activities. We have no evidence at all that was the case.
If the fear is that Illinois will be exposed because of the “coach responsible for his assistant” rule, I really doubt the NCAA will be going down that road. Roughly 10% of the P5 schools could conceivably be in trouble based on the 4 arrested assistant coaches alone. Assuming this investigation expands, what is the NCAA going to do? Put 20-30% or more of their money-making schools on probation?
No? The NCAA is going to concentrate on the buying of high school recruits. The Louisvilles of the world are the ones in trouble.
Oh, and another note... I think UNC had a very bad day yesterday. No way the NCAA will simply bury their academic shenanigans in the wake of this investigation. The NCAA came away looking toothless and irrelevant, and they’re going to make a statement to reverse that perception, with UNC an easy target directly in their crosshairs.
If the fear is that Illinois will be exposed because of the “coach responsible for his assistant” rule, I really doubt the NCAA will be going down that road. Roughly 10% of the P5 schools could conceivably be in trouble based on the 4 arrested assistant coaches alone. Assuming this investigation expands, what is the NCAA going to do? Put 20-30% or more of their money-making schools on probation?
No? The NCAA is going to concentrate on the buying of high school recruits. The Louisvilles of the world are the ones in trouble.
Oh, and another note... I think UNC had a very bad day yesterday. No way the NCAA will simply bury their academic shenanigans in the wake of this investigation. The NCAA came away looking toothless and irrelevant, and they’re going to make a statement to reverse that perception, with UNC an easy target directly in their crosshairs.
Finally, a logical statement
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Jason RileyVerified account @JasonRileyWDRB 4m4 minutes ago
Asked what Rick Pitino will do next, Steve Pence said: "I can only tell you to stand by. It will not be nothing."
Asked what Rick Pitino will do next, Steve Pence said: "I can only tell you to stand by. It will not be nothing."
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