Illini Basketball 2018-2019

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IlliniFanAtEIU1953

Rantoul, IL
Coach Underwood Interview on 6-8-2018

Originally Posted by Tacomallini
Just getting caught up on Loyalty, so forgive if this has already been shared. Did you see a BU interview posted somewhere about Ebo leaving?
There was a Tay and Carp show on a radio station with the call sign of WSJK, 93.5 FM, Friday, June 8th, and they had an interview with Coach Brad Underwood.


They asked Coach Underwood about Ebo leaving the team at the 4:41 time mark of the interview.


You can move the slider control on the Podcast player to the time interval of 4:41 or you can listen to the whole interview from the start of the Podcast.


Here's a link to that Podcast of the Tay and Carp show so you can listen to the interview:
https://tayandcarp.podbean.com/e/060818-brad-underwood-interview/
 
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Well, one things for sure Underwood isn't gonna let this beat him. Sounded very upbeat and energized.
 
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There was a Tay and Carp show on a radio station with the call sign of WSJK, 93.5 FM, Friday, June 8th, and they had an interview with Coach Brad Underwood.


They asked Coach Underwood about Ebo leaving the team at the 4:41 time mark of the interview.


You can move the slider control on the Podcast player to the time interval of 4:41 or you can listen to the whole interview from the start of the Podcast.


Here's a link to that Podcast of the Tay and Carp show so you can listen to the interview:
https://tayandcarp.podbean.com/e/060818-brad-underwood-interview/

Thanks for sharing.

To me, definitely sounds like it as more of a personal issue.

I'll be curious where he ends up playing, if at all.
 
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IlliniFanAtEIU1953

Rantoul, IL
In that interview with Coach Underwood, at the 6:56 time interval, they ask the coach about the three first year players that have now all left the team.

From hearing the response from the coach it seemed to be a case of having to get players in here without having the time to really get to know the players or for the players to really get to know the Coach.

The coach made it sound like he preferred to have at least a year or more to get to know the players that he's recruiting.

And this could have contributed to the three players leaving the team after only one year.

Perhaps others of you will hear it differently than I did and might feel like sharing what you thought you heard the coach say about that.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
When I watch the limited films we have posted of him on here, I see a guy who has short strides and shuffles for a guy of his height. That is a classic trademark of tight hips. Not being able to open up fully and cover more ground with ease. It could also honestly be a strength deficiency where’s he’s overcompensating for a lack of strength by not full extending himself. If that’s the case fletch can fix it, but it’s what I see now.

As far as the dunking thing, when I watch him it looks like he has to fully load up to get just far enough over the rim to dunk. And he does that on videos without defense. That’s what is concerning to me. Dunking is it not an end all be all skill, but it is a measure of functional basketball athleticism.

Tight hips can be fixed too, or at least, improved.
 
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PostersLastStand

Wayne County, IL
With Ebo gone, maybe we could play in a 6'8" and under league? All kidding aside, am I concerned, very much so. Do I believe in Coach Underwood, His Staff and style of play, yes I do. I am concerned about lack of height, but more worried about the lack of exprienced height at the 4 and 5. And overall inexprience coming off the bench. Looks like I'll need to renew my script for acid reflux medication this fall. I hope Brad Underwood is the Coach I believe him to be.
 
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PostersLastStand

Wayne County, IL
I wanted to add, I don't think we will win the Big Ten, but I hope we will not be on the bubble, good side, when the NCAA Section Committe chooses the field. Yep, until that day the Illini have a chance, the Illini have a chance, the Illini have a chance, sorry trying to convince myself. Go Illini!
 
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Love BU offense and recruits. But his offense takes two years to learn as a team minimum. With the transfers we lose that knowledge and need to start fresh. We also lost
2 recruits I thought would do well in the long term. MSmith more replaceable than Ebo.

Going forward need to keep players.
 
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Someday we'll have another 6'10" guy who can block a three pointer then finish it himself with one hand on the other end, but hoh boy, Giorgi ain't him.

You think that is a big deal?...It was a great play but athletic? Not really., I love Auggie but he didnt dribble with both hands. If you were impressed by an block and no one between him and the rim. The you never saw Kenny Battle!

https://youtu.be/u3TMzJ__e2c

Or Efrem dunk!....Auggie was a good player but dont act like he was something he wasnt...he worked hard for sure

He isnt efrem or an uberathlete. Gio is as good as he was athletically and can use both hands...

Heres n athlete. EFREMn Bruce ..N harp...

.https://youtu.be/_U1DcXzXVzk

Let's find that guy.

Seriously its obvious
 
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I loved watching Auggie slip those screens for the jams

Well I was pre conditioned I guess. I bet you never saw Efrem put his chin on a rim. The former MCDAA game MVP. I love augustine..but if you think he was a high flyer you must be a pup drinking kool aid. Battle, Lowell, n Efrem made you gasp when it came to dunks at U of I...Nick and kendall had some good ones to. I love every Illini dunk but come one man. Auggie just dunked like every other big man to be honest.


I want a mobile guy that can pass, dribble, and shoot. Also one that plays using his head and is big enough to block out and rebound. I don't care if the never dunk ig they dr o that
 
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Govoner Vaugn Fan

New Orleans
In that interview with Coach Underwood, at the 6:56 time interval, they ask the coach about the three first year players that have now all left the team.

From hearing the response from the coach it seemed to be a case of having to get players in here without having the time to really get to know the players or for the players to really get to know the Coach.

The coach made it sound like he preferred to have at least a year or more to get to know the players that he's recruiting.

And this could have contributed to the three players leaving the team after only one year.

Perhaps others of you will hear it differently than I did and might feel like sharing what you thought you heard the coach say about that.




Good summary. I had the same thoughts.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
I feel like the coaches knew they had a PR issue and went out prepared to address it. Chin was on Saturday Sportsline with the same basic message. Not sure I 100% buy it, but what else are they going to say!
 
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River city chief I really don’t understand how you can call giorgi athletic in one breath and say augie was not in another.

If there is anything I have learned from all of this is that people really do have different definitions of athleticism
 
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I loved watching Auggie slip those screens for the jams

Lighten up Francis. You realize that it's entirely possible for Augustine to be athletic and others as well?

I'd actually take Augie to be as athletic as Hamilton.

Augie was very athletic, which is a big reason why he got looks for the NBA and had a long career over seas.
Francis? Lighten up? They are riding a guy who has yet to play a game yet and making Auggie out to be something he certainly was not or never was. Auggie ran well but actually on the 89 team wouldnt finished in the top 7 in a dunk contest on that team. I loved Augustine but to say he was some high flying athlete just is not the case Auggie played smart and got his rear in the right place to rebound. Lowell was 6'7" and could get his chin up by the rim too. James never could do that Sargent Hulka. I think some of these guys BU has need to be lightened up on, at least till they play a game. I try to be realistic about things and my memory serves me well. I had Liberty jimp.over me once and not touch me n dunk it and I'm 6'2".and lowell could put jump him. Kendall got me tickets more than once. One time at Ole Miss were we smoked them. I'm not just blowing smoke. I assure Lowell's vertical was likely at least 8 or more inches higher than Auggies. Food is closer to Auggies than his was to Lowell's. I'm taking up for young guys when people are cutying them short and making others out to be Dr. J.
 
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Just to be clear, elevation on your dunk isn't the sole determinant of athleticism.

I've never seen any of our recruits, so I wouldn't be ripping them one way or another. I'm fine just waiting until they play to figure out how good they are. I certainly don't see any reasons to dump on Ebo or Augie or anyone else in an effort to make an incoming freshman look better.

Here's one profile of Augustine for the NBA Draft. He did get a cup of coffee in the league. Might not be politically correct, but the funny thing is Augie was seen as so athletic there were actually questions about whether he was black or not.

In terms of physical attributes, Augustine has an ideal package of what scouts usually look for in an NBA power forward. He is a lefty with good size at 6-10, an excellent frame, a nice wingspan, and more than enough athleticism to get the job done. Augustine is extremely agile, running the floor well--especially in transition--having good quickness and footspeed and being able to get off the floor swiftly to rebound, block shots and especially dunk. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Augustine-160/ ©DraftExpress
I never dumped on Augustine or Ebo. I just stated the truth from when they played. Ebo played to a role last year. Auggie played hard and smart and was good. Also, I am not getting into a debate on how athleticism is measured although I do have a Masters Phys Ed and Sports Admin. To say Auggie was the athlete Lowell was is just not true. I love the 04-05 team but as far as athletes it wasnt even close to the 89 team. Lowell out jumped that whole team and could run. I'm not sure other than maybe Dwill anyone on the 04-05 team could've started on the 89 team. It really diesnt matter if they play well together and I am excited about BU and it's good to see him bringing in shooters, passers, and ball handlers at all positions. If you dont see that. I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just seeing a change in things and given how it's been it's about time. Go 2018-19 Illini!
 
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sacraig

The desert
Francis? Lighten up? They are riding a guy who has yet to play a game yet and making Auggie out to be something he certainly was not or never was. Auggie ran well but actually on the 89 team wouldnt finished in the top 7 in a dunk contest on that team. I loved Augustine but to say he was some high flying athlete just is not the case Auggie played smart and got his rear in the right place to rebound. Lowell was 6'7" and could get his chin up by the rim too. James never could do that Sargent Hulka. I think some of these guys BU has need to be lightened up on, at least till they play a game. I try to be realistic about things and my memory serves me well. I had Liberty jimp.over me once and not touch me n dunk it and I'm 6'2".and lowell could put jump him. Kendall got me tickets more than once. One time at Ole Miss were we smoked them. I'm not just blowing smoke. I assure Lowell's vertical was likely at least 8 or more inches higher than Auggies. Food is closer to Auggies than his was to Lowell's. I'm taking up for young guys when people are cutying them short and making others out to be Dr. J.

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River city chief I really don’t understand how you can call giorgi athletic in one breath and say augie was not in another.

If there is anything I have learned from all of this is that people really do have different definitions of athleticism

I never said Augie was a good athlete. He solid for sure and likely is a a better athlete than Gio by a bit. He was a solid good B10 player. He just wasnt like those other guys or some freak athlete that's all I was saying. I loved how hard he played and played smart.
 
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Don't mean to flame, but seriously, does it really matter? Can either side even be proven to the point of convincing the other side to concede? If you're arguing just to argue (as a source of entertainment), then by all means, proceed, but if you're actually trying to prove a point, then I'm not sure there's a path forward here.

I'm thinking we need some positive recruiting news soon.
 
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He was a real good player, a solid player. He was 4th ot 5th option on a very good team. Maybe he deserves his jersey up in the rafters and I am wrong. I just didnt look at him as I do the other Illini greats is all. I'd love to have a player like him and I see positive differences in our new players vs those that left heading into 2018.



So how would Augie & Gio’s athleticism compare to someone like Larry Bird’s ?


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