Bret Bielema Takes Reins of Illinois Football

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Illinivek23

Gurnee
I think we have to remember that Bielama was a pretty decent DC under Barry at WI. At a minimum, we should get that with his hire. That we thought we were getting with the LS hire

And haven't we been hoping for more a ball control philosophy? Gonna be interesting to see what he wants to do on offense.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
The two programs we want to emulate are Wisconsin and Iowa- programs that can win consistently without having to beat OSU, UM and ND for recruits.

It’s logical to hire someone who actually knows what that takes and how to do it- the hire makes a lot of sense from that standpoint

there are a lot of reasons to pay $4M+ when you have the budget to do so- it establishes the program as a top 20 paying job and draws more interest than it would otherwise and helps you keep your coach if you do have a little success- I don’t mind the money at all
I agree. If he wins he is worth every penny. If he doesn’t, a few million will be small potato's to the cost to the program.

I will be so happy to just see fundamentally sound football for a change. We never got that with Lovie. I don’t think that’s too much to expect in his first year.
 
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I agree. If he wins he is worth every penny. If he doesn’t, a few million will be small potato's to the cost to the program.

I will be so happy to just see fundamentally sound football for a change. We never got that with Lovie. I don’t think that’s too much to expect in his first year.
True, but I imagine there is some limit to the amount the coaching staff can cost. If you could have had him for $3.5 million, an extra $700k to spread around to assistants could have been big (he apparently was making $400k with the NY Giants so I find it hard to believe he would have rejected $3.5 mil)
 
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I'm more ok with BB than LL. Didn't want to try another MAC coach. I know LL wouldn't have recruiting like a P5 coach does but no FG kicker on your team is a headscrather to me. I would like to think a in state boy has to help. Although he didn't go to Illinois back then as a player who could blame him. Would be interesting to see who turned down JW like another poster mentioned. His midwestern roots have to account for something. He obviously heard about Lovies poor connections with HS coaches in state. Fitzpatrick seems to do pretty good with instate and lower star recruits. Been following Illinois football for 50 years never thought I would say can we be as good as Northwestern or Indiana.
 
#208      
Not pleased.

I don't respect "Bert Bruh", and will surprised if he has matured enough to earn it. I cannot look past a coach who isn't even a decent human being.

I expected better from JW.
 
#209      
Not excited at all with this hire...but I guess I’ll have to watch. Will definitely need to see them win before I pay for any tickets to see a game.
 
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So if you keep reading he says he sends top players to Illinois, but the two players he sent to Illinois played 15+ years ago. BB is going to have to prove a lot to Illinois high school coaches, but ESL plays too many games to seriously care what they think about who we hire.
Didn’t Bielema pull a high profile skill player from ESL? Apple or Appleton something with fruit? But now he’s the wrong coach at Illinois?
 
#213      

dgcrow

Kelso, WA
Disappointing. Was hoping for a young, bright, up-and-coming coach who can easily relate to today's players, not a retread. A proven retread, granted, but one nonetheless.
 
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I’m good with the hire. Bret knows what it takes to coach and recruit at this level. That’s something Illinois football hasn’t been able to say about a coach in a long time. He can hit the ground running with no learning curve.

The money might be a little high but I don’t really care. It’s not my money. I’m assuming JW isn’t going to hamstring him on the assistant coach salary pool.
 
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I’m good with the hire. Bret knows what it takes to coach and recruit at this level. That’s something Illinois football hasn’t been able to say about a coach in a long time. He can hit the ground running with no learning curve.

The money might be a little high but I don’t really care. It’s not my money. I’m assuming JW isn’t going to hamstring him on the assistant coach salary pool.

Weren't we paying Lovie as much to not win gamea basically??? BB is a better Big Ten coach that Lovie is based on record alone, I doubt you have a ton of leverage to low ball him.
 
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Someone convince me that this isn't the equivalent of Kansas hiring Les Miles. I laughed at that hire. Seems like a lot of outsiders are laughing at this hire.
 
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True, but I imagine there is some limit to the amount the coaching staff can cost. If you could have had him for $3.5 million, an extra $700k to spread around to assistants could have been big (he apparently was making $400k with the NY Giants so I find it hard to believe he would have rejected $3.5 mil)
I'll bet that JW can count.
 
#221      

Cook

Richmond, VA
So much of the chatter in this stuff is looking backwards and digging into the past of the coaches. And there is much to admire about Leipold in that regard.

But the trick is projecting into the future, of that coach in our job with the particularities of it and how a plan is going to work. And it just wasn't adding up to me. I am glad we didn't go in that direction, and I wouldn't have said that two weeks ago. The more I researched and thought about it, the less sense it made.

I'd have hired Monken. I thought Dave Clawson made a lot of sense too, if he was in fact available. I thought Jim Leonhard made a lot of sense, if he was in fact available. All of those guys would have been higher on my list, probably.

I think the case for Bielema is that, when you think about our brand new $80 million football facility, and the industry leading nooks and crannies of that, it was obvious that, as big of a name that Lovie Smith is, the slapdash crony operation he was running did not scale to that as a resource. Bielema is going to step in on day one able to operate that resource to its fullest potential. There is no learning curve in the actual day-to-day program oversight at a well-resourced 2020 Big Ten football program. That is appealing.
Cookouts on our fb facility patio/beer garden thing are going to be epic now!
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Someone convince me that this isn't the equivalent of Kansas hiring Les Miles. I laughed at that hire. Seems like a lot of outsiders are laughing at this hire.
Bielema is 17 years younger than Miles, and Illinois is a lot more like Wisconsin and Arkansas than Kansas is like LSU.

And at age 50 with a wife and kids it is more plausible (though far from certain) that Bielema has reined in the aspects of his personality that brought him mockery than that a Social Security-aged Les Miles is going to stop being a space cadet.
 
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Someone convince me that this isn't the equivalent of Kansas hiring Les Miles. I laughed at that hire. Seems like a lot of outsiders are laughing at this hire.

Really indifferent about outsider perception. Not like it was thst much better when we get annihilated 63-0 at home with a supposed defensive specialist HC.
 
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Someone convince me that this isn't the equivalent of Kansas hiring Les Miles. I laughed at that hire. Seems like a lot of outsiders are laughing at this hire.
I know it’s hard to believe, but Illinois is a significantly better football program than Kansas. Not many P5 programs we can say that about, but it’s true in this case.

Bielema is nowhere near the goofball Miles is. Bielema was coaching in the NFL between college gigs. Miles was chasing an acting career.
 
#225      
I wonder if Lindsey stays. Easily Carney’s best year. Switch to a 3-4 may prevent that but elevating him to DC for this game may at least mean JW thinks somewhat highly of him.