Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (Week of April 12th, 2021)

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illiniguy

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Epsilon said:
Yep. It has been updated. Funny, earlier it said 27 on the initial landing page but when you went to this page with the commits it said 47, so I didn’t know what the 27 was all about. They must have seen the disconnect and fixed it.
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Hmm...is 247 only using numbers 2, 4 and 7 for our rankings now?
 
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sacraig

sacraig
The desert
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altgeld88 said:
That's mesmerizing. I'd really be impressed, however, if you updated the GIF so each succeeding Chief rotates opposite to the preceding one. ;) The ceiling of my talent is simply to be able to identify that it's a GIF.
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It probably wouldn't be that hard to do (and I am not even very good at GIFs), but I have already done zero work outside of Zoom meetings today, so probably need to earn a paycheck before making any more gifs.
 
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RockfordIllini

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JW said:
I was just about to post the same. Looks like they bumped us up.

According to 247 our recruiting rankings with Underwood:

2017: 30 (Mark Smith, Trent Frazier both 4 stars,
2018: 25 (Ayo, Tevian Jones both 4 stars)
2019: 69 (Kofi 4 stars)
2020: 16 (Miller, Curbelo both 4 stars)
2021: 27 (Good and Melendez 4 stars, Podz 3 stars! WTF?)

I do question 247's value. I was surprised to see how many years 247 considered Bruce Weber's recruiting to be top 25, which differs from my recollection. Perhaps the difference is Underwood seems to do a great job of landing 4 star recruits who play above their rankings and are impactful (Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller).
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The 2010 class was supposed to bring us back and wound up a complete disaster.

Richmond, Leonard and Head and all we really had to show for it was one good, not great season for Leonard while the team imploded.
 
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sacraig

sacraig
The desert
sacraig
JW said:
I was just about to post the same. Looks like they bumped us up.

According to 247 our recruiting rankings with Underwood:

2017: 30 (Mark Smith, Trent Frazier both 4 stars,
2018: 25 (Ayo, Tevian Jones both 4 stars)
2019: 69 (Kofi 4 stars)
2020: 16 (Miller, Curbelo both 4 stars)
2021: 27 (Good and Melendez 4 stars, Podz 3 stars! WTF?)

I do question 247's value. I was surprised to see how many years 247 considered Bruce Weber's recruiting to be top 25, which differs from my recollection. Perhaps the difference is Underwood seems to do a great job of landing 4 star recruits who play above their rankings and are impactful (Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller).
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1) Rankings in general this year are pretty screwy since there hasn't been AAU ball in a while and opportunities to observe have been limited due to COVID.
2) Weber recruited decently. He just never really managed to develop many of those recruits into appreciably better players than when they first came to campus and/or couldn't get his system to work with them.
 
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lblesy

lblesy
lblesy
Pick your class:

1.
Brandon Weston
David Jones
Jordan Nesbitt

2.
Luke Goode
Ramses Melendez
Brandin Podziemski
 
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GrayGhost77

GrayGhost77
Centennial, CO
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sacraig said:
1) Rankings in general this year are pretty screwy since there hasn't been AAU ball in a while and opportunities to observe have been limited due to COVID.
2) Weber recruited decently. He just never really managed to develop many of those recruits into appreciably better players than when they first came to campus and/or couldn't get his system to work with them.
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Yes to #1. To #2, more like Jerrance Howard recruited decently despite Bruce. But I agree the development wasn't there and Bruce wasn't the greatest motivator (those Self guys he inherited pretty much motivated themselves).
 
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JW

JW
Vancouver
JW
RockfordIllini said:
The 2010 class was supposed to bring us back and wound up a complete disaster.

Richmond, Leonard and Head and all we really had to show for it was one good, not great season for Leonard while the team imploded.
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247 also has class of 2011 as #10 in national rankings. 2007 at 28? 2009 at 29?
 
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Illwinsagain

Illwinsagain
Cary, IL
Illwinsagain
JW said:
I was just about to post the same. Looks like they bumped us up.

According to 247 our recruiting rankings with Underwood:

2017: 30 (Mark Smith, Trent Frazier both 4 stars,
2018: 25 (Ayo, Tevian Jones both 4 stars)
2019: 69 (Kofi 4 stars)
2020: 16 (Miller, Curbelo both 4 stars)
2021: 27 (Good and Melendez 4 stars, Podz 3 stars! WTF?)

I do question 247's value. I was surprised to see how many years 247 considered Bruce Weber's recruiting to be top 25, which differs from my recollection. Perhaps the difference is Underwood seems to do a great job of landing 4 star recruits who play above their rankings and are impactful (Ayo, Kofi, Curbelo, Miller).
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Lots of talented players, just mostly wings.
 
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Joel Goodson

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respect my decision™
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The fixation some fans have with recruiting ratings, especially when it comes to kids outside the top 50, is borderline nuts. Our staff is light years better than the rating experts (collectively) when it come to ID-ing guys. All 3 incoming kids have high ceilings. That's plenty good for me.
 
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JFGsCoffeeMug

JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
JFGsCoffeeMug
sacraig said:
1) Rankings in general this year are pretty screwy since there hasn't been AAU ball in a while and opportunities to observe have been limited due to COVID.
2) Weber recruited decently. He just never really managed to develop many of those recruits into appreciably better players than when they first came to campus and/or couldn't get his system to work with them.
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Recruited decently in a vacuum. Recruited poorly from a roster-construction standpoint.
 
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samj_17

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I know nobody asked but am I the only one that just noticed that Morsell is in the transfer portal??
 
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CogDog

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Joel Goodson said:
The fixation some fans have with recruiting ratings, especially when it comes to kids outside the top 50, is borderline nuts. Our staff is light years better than the rating experts (collectively) when it come to ID-ing guys. All 3 incoming kids have high ceilings. That's plenty good for me.
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Quoting this for the people who need to read this again.
 
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Joel Goodson

Joel Goodson
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Illiniboss33 said:
An interesting name i am hearing some buzz around Ledarrius Brewer he is a solid 2 or 3 and shoots the three alot with close to a 40% avg..
He would fit in nicely.
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I didn't know who he was a week ago, but he looks like quite a player. Think he can be good at the highest level. We could do a lot, lot worse, IMO.
 
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MA Illini

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Mass
MA Illini
JFGsCoffeeMug said:
Would AM announcing he's staying at Illinois qualify as "transfer news?"

Asking for a friend.
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Keiran Lee Reaction GIF
 
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Illiniboss33

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Illiniboss33
Joel Goodson said:
I didn't know who he was a week ago, but he looks like quite a player. Think he can be good at the highest level. We could do a lot, lot worse, IMO.
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If and I mean IF miller does transfer he would slide right in the starting lineup.
Hes pretty athletic as well.
I dont think we can find a transfer who could replace miller, especially his Defense.. But he is a good start.
I agree we could do a lot worse, but our staff wont allow that this year.
 
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