Polls & Bracketology - Illinois #12 in AP Poll

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altgeld88

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skyIdub said:
Water is wet.

The sun will rise.

Someone will post "rankings mean nothing" in the Polls & Bracketology thread.
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jrichisamazing

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Deep said:
These ranking mean nothing. I would like us to be a top three seed in Ncaa tournament. I do not want to be a 4 or 5 as the road is harder.
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I found this site pretty interesting. https://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/seedadv.html

I always assumed the difference between being seeded 3 vs 4 was more influential than being seed 2 vs 3. But these numbers actually show the bigger gap is between the 2 vs 3 seed.

So I would take it a step further and say we really want to be a top 2 seed.
 
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Snoopy

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frozenrope9190 said:
No team plays a beautiful set of basketball for 40 minutes every game.
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Great post. Illinois fans are spoiled by 2 generational teams, the Flying Illini and then the 2005 37-2 team. Both those teams had multiple NBA caliber players and were the results of years of program building. And neither played beautiful ball all 40 minutes of every game. We remember the comeback in the Arizona game, not why a comeback was needed.

I think this team has a shot to go really deep in the tournament if the NCAA gods work the matchups in our favor and timely 3's are made. But this team is not about basketball perfection, it is a team of over achieving guys, willing themselves through screens, or hitting a layup with 3 guys hanging on their ams, who bought into Brad's vision, worked their butts off to improve themselves, improve the program, and maybe win a bit now.
 
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jrichisamazing said:
I found this site pretty interesting. https://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/seedadv.html

I always assumed the difference between being seeded 3 vs 4 was more influential than being seed 2 vs 3. But these numbers actually show the bigger gap is between the 2 vs 3 seed.

So I would take it a step further and say we really want to be a top 2 seed.
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My work laptop did not like that link at all.
 
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Deep

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sacraig said:
Literally not true since these rankings are what dictate the amount of hype around a team based on coverage by national media. They mean a whole hell of a lot, actually.
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I was not talking about hype........my comment was more for how good a team is or how much of a chance they have to win their league or NCAA Title.
 
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frozenrope9190

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Snoopy said:
Great post. Illinois fans are spoiled by 2 generational teams, the Flying Illini and then the 2005 37-2 team. Both those teams had multiple NBA caliber players and were the results of years of program building. And neither played beautiful ball all 40 minutes of every game. We remember the comeback in the Arizona game, not why a comeback was needed.

I think this team has a shot to go really deep in the tournament if the NCAA gods work the matchups in our favor and timely 3's are made. But this team is not about basketball perfection, it is a team of over achieving guys, willing themselves through screens, or hitting a layup with 3 guys hanging on their ams, who bought into Brad's vision, worked their butts off to improve themselves, improve the program, and maybe win a bit now.
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I saw an interesting blurb on SportCenter yesterday, where they gave B10 results. The first game they covered was Purdue/Maryland, where they talked about how close it was, how Purdue nearly stumbled and didn't play well, and what a great upset that would have been. The next game they covered was Illinois/Northwestern where they said a passing sentence about how NU cut it to 1 but there was just too much Kofi. WE knew how close it was and how sloppy it was at times, but to them? That was a ROUT compared to the other game, a Top 8 team playing at home full strength against a 3-10 Maryland squad. Because this stuff happens all the time.
 
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Deep

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Chad Fleck said:
The argument is that hype relates to exposure. Exposure relates to recruiting. Recruiting relates better teams. Better teams relate to the part I bolded in your post. :)
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I think we are on two different waive lengths. I will move on.............
 
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BillyBob1

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Champaign
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ptgrd23

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Snoopy said:
Great post. Illinois fans are spoiled by 2 generational teams, the Flying Illini and then the 2005 37-2 team. Both those teams had multiple NBA caliber players and were the results of years of program building. And neither played beautiful ball all 40 minutes of every game. We remember the comeback in the Arizona game, not why a comeback was needed.

I think this team has a shot to go really deep in the tournament if the NCAA gods work the matchups in our favor and timely 3's are made. But this team is not about basketball perfection, it is a team of over achieving guys, willing themselves through screens, or hitting a layup with 3 guys hanging on their ams, who bought into Brad's vision, worked their butts off to improve themselves, improve the program, and maybe win a bit now.
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Flying Illini - Nick Anderson and Kendall Gill had long NBA careers
2005 - Deron Williams had medium but brilliant career

The Flying Illini had the most talent. Liberty was consensus #1 HS player in country but only had 1 really good season for us.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

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Washington, DC
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BretMyBeachHouse said:
Losing is not success. If you're point is to express that it wasn't the disaster that some portrayed it as, fine. But success is winning.
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We won the game we needed to win to remain first in the conference and move up in the polls. That win is a Q2 and counts to our Q1 + Q2, which they use for seeding. Thus, we helped ourselves in all the things that matter most at this stage in the season.

Plus, and this is salient, half the top 25 lost this week, including basically every team around us. Sometimes success is also about mitigating the damage done. We did that better than most this week, hence why we moved up in the polls.

Now yeah, success later in the season is solely about winning, but we aren’t at that part of the season yet.
 
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