I'm not sure I see the fit? Maybe it's if Kofi leaves and Hawkins goes to the 5?
I'm not sure I see the fit? Maybe it's if Kofi leaves and Hawkins goes to the 5?
Well, they only get to do it once, so they better make sure they get it right the 2nd time around. With NIL money in play, sitting on the bench for a couple years isn't going to be very palatable for guys who could be starting elsewhere.Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
Best of luck to Podz and Curbelo, hope they prosper and do great things in all aspects of life
And for the potential of the Vander Vos euro-duoI want him based on just his name alone. It reminds me of Eurotrip.
I'm not sure I see the fit? Maybe it's if Kofi leaves and Hawkins goes to the 5?
I agree with all of this.Well, they only get to do it once, so they better make sure they get it right the 2nd time around. With NIL money in play, sitting on the bench for a couple years isn't going to be very palatable for guys who could be starting elsewhere.
I don't think guys are leaving because they don't want to work. Sometimes in life, its more healthy to pick up your ball and leave, if you are unhappy. You only get one life. You have to pursue your own happiness.
I agree - I think if he comes here it would mean some other roster turnover we haven't heard about yet - I don't think he would come here not to playLove Vander Plas. Would be a great vet to have. I wonder how hard we are pursuing him though.
That doesn't open up a scholarship though?Wonder if there'd be any interest in having Lieb take a Redshirt, and then he can progress another year closer to his U of I business degree (big selling point in why he came to Illinois despite knowing PT would be hard to come by), and with COVID year in 2020-21, he could play out a year in 2023-24, graduate, and then have 2 years of eligibility and kind of assess from there if he can be a role player for Illinois or play out 2 years at a lower level of competition.
nicely said. With 3 talented sophomores and 4 talented Freshman incoming, PT has to be earned and my gut says that Podz might draw the short stick even through there are lot of minutes at the 2 for someone(s) to earn. Also, likely competing with transfer portal guys for minutes at the 2.When you play 69 total minutes all season and score just 7 points in Big Ten play, transferring is always on the table. Especially when players like Clark, Epps and Harris are coming in to fight with you for minutes and you know the team is in the market for Transfers as well. He doesn't want to risk spending another season as the 12th man (and being the 10th man is not too much more appealing).
Fighting for scraps when there are likely places you can play now means Transfer just makes sense. And I don't think it's that great for anyone's development to spend time buried on the bench or only playing 1 minute here, 2 minutes there. Practice is what it is what and important, but those in-game reps are how you really become a better player.
I don't think it's good for every player in the country that puts their name in the Portal, some may never come out when the numbers with the COVID crunch are fully realized or they discover the grass isn't greener, etc. However, I think that mostly applies to Mid-Major players who leave good situations for them because maybe they have 15 points in a game out of conference against a high major and think "that makes me a high major player" who may get somewhere and realize that it doesn't necessarily work that way and that former top 100 recruit who is just a bit better in every area means about 20 less minutes when you start doing the math on minutes allocations. For high major players that were nicely rated recruits that aren't seeing the minutes they like, transferring and immediately playing is generally a good thing.
Podz was a late riser in the recruiting world who didn't play against players that had any future in basketball day in and out in High School. He may be a longer term guy and eventually lives up to it, but if Illinois keeps recruiting at a high level, the minutes may not ever be there. Losing the guy who played the 12th most minutes isn't uncommon in any era... maybe players were more inclined to give it 2 years instead of 1 before willingly sitting a year, but this is what it is. With the players being lost, it'd be nice if he was there until the younger guys definitively pass him, but you can't expect a player to just hang around like that when it's their BBall future on the line.
I get this point of view, heck for the most part I believe it too. But these kids have 4 years to make a big enough mark to maximize how they are perceived for an NBA spot or at least a chance at playing professionally somewhere. And your chances of making NBA after 4 years in college is reduced, so your best chance is if you can come out within 3 years. Podz has already used up year 1. If he stays here with no clear cut path to much playing time, let alone starting, he’s now wasted 2 years. Remember we have no idea what BU said to him during their meeting. While he may not have come out and said playing time will likely be scarce, I’m sure Podz can read between the lines.Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
Best of luck to Podz and Curbelo, hope they prosper and do great things in all aspects of life
I'm sorry for him that he had so much going on in his personal life (don't wish that upon anybody, particularly a young college kid), but it's always a red flag when a player sits or leaves a team and the team goes on to play much better basketball.He was pretty underwhelming in his time at UNC (before the personal issues sidelined him).
I don't know... I am in the camp of it being ok having someone like him at the end of the bench. No one is ever going to go 11-13 deep on the rotation. 10 is already pushing it most of the time. At that point having some stability and guys that bleed O&B for spots 11-13 is good. They become grad assistants and maybe you get a future coach out of it.That doesn't open up a scholarship though?
Correct, it wouldn't be to open a scholarship, it would be mostly to do him a solid and preserve a year of eligibility assuming he is a good character guy who is useful to have around for practices, mentoring younger players, etc.That doesn't open up a scholarship though?
I remember that game also.....Hit some 3's and played a whale of a game against us,,,,,,,,Kid had a phenomenal game against us in 2020 but haven’t really followed him since. Is there legit interest here from the staff?
No offense, but this is the same line of reasoning that a lot of companies use to underpay people. IMO, if I work hard and it’s not good enough for the place where I currently work, I’ll look for another place where my hard work will be appreciated more. That’s what Podz is doing here. He’s only got 4 years of college basketball. He’s gotta look out for himself. I wish him the best of luck.Agreed, this is going to become the new norm. My biggest concern for these young men and women that are transferring is the outlook on life. I've always worked on the ideology that if I'm not good enough for something, I work harder, and if that isn't enough, wait my time. What exactly are we teaching/allowing? "If things aren't the way I want them to be, I'll just pick up my ball and go somewhere else." I wish they would have just changed NIL and left transfer the way it was, sit a year.
3.1 assists/game for a 6'8 forward is impressive. Almost wondering if that is accurate.
Guessing it'll be radio silent on TSJ until Kofi makes his decision.Please, anyone, just give me some news on TSJ and why the insiders liked that post saying he's unlikely to come here