Pregame: Illinois vs Penn State, Thursday, March 9th, 5:30pm CT, BTN

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#276      
If we think that PSU is a terrible draw, we should be in the NIT. That is a team that's squarely on the bubble and it's as close to a home game as possible within tournament play. With that mentality, outside of Minnesota, who would be a good draw?
Rutgers, purdue, northwestern, wisconsin, msu, mich. penn State is not a good match up for us. Did you catch our two reg season games vs them?
 
#277      
I'm sorry, I love Dainja, but BU can't start him or play him more than 15 mins vs PSU.

PSU starts 4 guards and a 6'10 PF who avgs 14 mpg. Pickett is gonna destroy the drop coverage.


Also, having Goode back in the flow for a month now is a huge x-factor compared to the previous matchups with PSU. Having another 6'7 guard to throw at Pickett is an asset.

I wouldn't mind seeing a starting lineup of:

Harris
Shannon
Goode
Mayer
Hawkins

With Rodgers, RJ 1st off the bench and inserting Dainja at moments in the game to see if he can take advantage of matchups and not be a liability defensively.

To close out the game I'd probably swap in Rodgers for Harris and play whoever is more effective between Goode and RJ.
I like it, but give me rodgers over shannon. We can’t afford a sleep,walk start again. Need guaranteed intensity for the first 5 minutes.
 
#278      
Rutgers, purdue, northwestern, wisconsin, msu, mich. penn State is not a good match up for us. Did you catch our two reg season games vs them?

It all depends.

If the 2nd half (of a game) Illinois team starts and completes the game, then we win pretty much every game.

But, If the 1st half team pops its head, then we could give a game to a high school team. Then, "not a good match up for us" applies to pretty much every team out there.
 
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#279      
I like it, but give me rodgers over shannon. We can’t afford a sleep,walk start again. Need guaranteed intensity for the first 5 minutes.
Bench our 1st team All conference guard? That is a bold move, Jimbo.

You're right about the intensity though. And I will be honest, there are things about TJ's game that I don't love, but he has a knack for putting points on the scoreboard and points are good.
 
#282      
I think Dain, unfortunately, is the weakest link in our chain, right now.

And, since Hawk can play all minutes - if he keeps out of foul trouble - he needs to be our center.

The rest can come and go as practicable.

And, since it is the one-and-done season, the start of every game is critical. I prefer to build a HUGE lead from the start. Cannot risk giving up leads and expecting to catch up.
 
#283      
Yes and then he laughs lol
Post this on the team bulletin board. Make sure TSJ and MM see it. See if that doesn’t increase the defensive presence.

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#284      
Brad needs to bring in an adjunct from the English Premier League to teach a flop that won’t be recognized as a flop when Pickett pushes off to generate space for his shot.

The really good ballers know how to do that little hook around the defender’s body with their free arm to fend him off and create space (and that is rarely if ever called a foul on the offensive player). Our Illini guys could do more of that.

Also, as far as teaching the Futball Flop... just don’t teach the part where the guy rolls around on the ground for five minutes with a look of excruciating pain on his tortured and contorted face and then he hops right up like Lazarus and runs off like it was nothing.

And give Penn State lots of yellow cards.
 
#285      
I like it, but give me rodgers over shannon. We can’t afford a sleep,walk start again. Need guaranteed intensity for the first 5 minutes.
I didn't have the sense that Shannon has been "sleepwalking" early in games, but his start in the last game did stand out to me, and he has been very quiet in the first half of games. We will need him better, early.
 
#286      

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The only one that concerns me is more full court press. I’d try to leave that particular club in the bag if I could, starting what is hopefully 4 games in 4 days (and no update on Epps status)… but win or go home and we may have to go that route.
What about a token 1-2-2 press with whoever is supposed to be guarding Pickett at the point of the press. It’s sole purpose to take a few seconds off of the shot clock since it takes awhile for Pickett to back someone down. Maybe they break the press and then have to reset and give ball to Pickett to begin his back downs. If he initiates offense at 20 seconds rather than 24, you might get some more rushed shots.
 
#287      
Up the line helps on penetration but in combination with on the line you're usually too high to effectively close a gap. You have to stunt backwards, then turn around and close out when they pass your man the ball (and their ability to pass your man the ball from one pass away makes starting on the line a moot point anyway, because that's what you're trying to stop by starting that way). You become a defender moving in 2 directions simultaneously, which makes anyone worse. That's why you see up the line teams who want to stop penetration more packed in.
All you are looking for is to chase the others off the 3 point line. Pickett penetrates the others look to relocate and shoot the 3. Picketts penetration is what kills us. At least attempt to eliminate Pickett penetration is a start.
 
#288      
I think offense might be our best defense. Drive to the basket early and often. Get at least two PSU starters with two fouls by the ten minute mark. Since they lack depth, that should leave them with fewer deadeye three-point shooters on the court for the rest of the half. If they have fewer three point shooters, then doubling Pickett should prove a little less dangerous.
 
#289      
We haven’t practiced zone defense in 2 years
But it WAS in the playbook 2 years ago then? And not just the 1-2-2 little zone press that he put in year before…I think it was? Interesting.

Seems like he sticks to his guns on things. But he’s also a pragmatist. That’s definitely interesting.
 
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#290      
I'm factoring in a new shooting environment for psu at the UC with a pro Illini crowd and psu with the pressure of trying to make the dance (if they haven't already).................. I gotta believe we can do something different on the third go around.......
They say third times the charm , so I'm looking at this game in that vernacular........

I would rather get beat by them making 3's than another performance by Pickett of backing down whoever is guarding him into the paint and shooting over them ......He's what , 6'4" , I say a hard foul starting off.....Nothing illegal or causing an injury , but a leather sandwich smothered in Illini sauce and let's see where that goes as far as him venturing back into the paint..........I was always coached that if the opponent was going in for a layup or 3-4 shot in the paint , to make sure they didn't get the shot off at all.....

I'm thinking the Illini win .............................

Illini 80
psu 74

Now make it happen.....................................
.Nothing illegal or causing an injury , but a leather sandwich smothered in Illini sauce and let's see where that goes as far as him venturing back into the paint.

Agreed Everytime Picket backs in DD and Ty "the Enforcer" Rodgers need to take turns making him feel it.
 
#292      
.Nothing illegal or causing an injury , but a leather sandwich smothered in Illini sauce and let's see where that goes as far as him venturing back into the paint.

Agreed Everytime Picket backs in DD and Ty "the Enforcer" Rodgers need to take turns making him feel it.

Trying to match Pickett's physicality is absolutely the WORST way to approach it. He's one of the smartest players in the country, nobody is going to bully him.
 
#293      
Trying to match Pickett's physicality is absolutely the WORST way to approach it. He's one of the smartest players in the country, nobody is going to bully him.
No problem, give him his 5 to 8 footers all night long and let him have another 41 points.. What do you suggest?
 
#294      
Rutgers, purdue, northwestern, wisconsin, msu, mich. penn State is not a good match up for us. Did you catch our two reg season games vs them?
I did and you're right. It didn't go well....at all. Honestly, Northwestern cleaned our clocks for 3 of the 4 halves that we played them. It was a miracle win(which I'll GLADLY take).

My point is that Penn State brings nothing to the table that we shouldn't be able to handle, if we're really thinking that we have a March run in us.

They shoot the ball well and they have one physical guard. What else do they do well? The fact that we struggle with them is more of an issue with us versus the challenge that Penn State provides. They have no size advantage, no depth advantage.....they shoot the ball well. That's it. That simply can't be viewed as them being a bad match up.

The fact is that we haven't been able to guard the three point line all year and our ability to keep ANY guards under control has been a problem. This is not unique to PSU. Perkins went off on us, Buie went off on us, Bufkin went off on us, all of the Purdue guards went off on us, yes Pickett has gone off on us too.

We have guards that have a tendency to go under screens, don't fight through screens, don't switch overly well and rotate poorly which has led to a lot of wide open weak side threes. Penn State has taken advantage. Again, that's on us. There's nothing that they do that's unique.

If we pressure the ball, if we switch properly, if we rotate properly....we win by 10+. If we don't, PSU will make us pay, which they've done twice.

This is basically a home game vs a team that we're far more talented than. That's just the way that I see it.
 
#295      
No problem, give him his 5 to 8 footers all night long and let him have another 41 points.. What do you suggest?

1. Bring double teams from his blind side as soon as he tries to put the ball on the floor in the post.
2. Don't try to play through screens if Pickett is the ball handler. Just switch.

Of course, this is predicated on no Dain Dainja on the floor.
 
#298      
crazy idea - try Brandon Lieb on him. If Pickett gets past Brandon can block him from behind.
 
#300      
A lot of talk about what it’s going to take to stop Pickett, but should also remember this Penn State team has some GLARING weaknesses. Dead last in the country in offensive rebounding %. Literally, dead last. Need Ty Rodgers on the floor giving them no 2nd chances. If Dain’s in the game: rebounding. Penn State also forces like no turnovers, yet we’ve been giving it away at will lately. Yes, we need to come out with energy, but we’re gonna get our looks on the offensive end if we play smart and take care of the basketball.
 
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