Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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7 Year Illini said:
Per 247 (which isn't perfect but can be used as a proxy), Skyy Clark was the 3rd highest rated Illini recruit ever. Jayden Epps was the 14th. Underwood
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It's actually worse than imperfect. Forever starts in 1999. Except we didn't recruit anyone until 2002. That class has one recruit, Deron Williams.

Poor Dee Brown! He joins Nick Weatherspoon, Eddie Johnson, Derek Harper, Bruce Douglas, Efrem Winters, Ken Norman, Lowell Hamilton, Nick Anderson, and so on as guys we never recruited.

Not to mention how they rank the 2009 class:
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It's a good source for our best recruits since 2010. Best ever? No way.
 
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Fears?
 
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john1952

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CHI 1086 said:
. Go back to recruiting guys who play for the name on the front, not the one on the back! We need team play...we could watch the NBA by changing the channel.
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I think the genie is out of the bottle. Now that there are six figure incomes to be earned and negotiated for I am skeptical that we will be able to go back.

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Fears?
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Could very well be with Hoggard and Walker back

EDIT: actually looking closer into it, his initial tweet was about how the portal is forcing recruits out. MSU hasn’t brought anyone in via the portal this year as far as I know, so I don’t think it’s about Fears.
 
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Joel Goodson said:
everyone gets one free transfer, immediate eligibility. Fears is a '23.

that said, I have no clue what's going on with Fears, nor do I know if our staff would pursue him
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If he gets a release he won't be burning a transfer. If MSU won't do that he'd burn it a kinda be locked into his next school. That would make him a hot commodity.
 
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7 Year Illini said:
Underwood took a very good risk-- the fact that it didn't work out is just a part of life. I would much rather we take these types of risks than take the kid who doesn't sniff the top 100 recruit list but when he was little he had a signed Michael Finke poster and just loves Illinois.
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To each his own but I wish the Illini would take more risks on guys like James Brown who would have jumped at an Illini offer. Granted he is not a day one starter as a frosh but seems like he'd be worth the risk as he could develop into a good player in his later years.
 
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I'm no fan of this "get old" strategy. Someone has to explain me how being 23 makes you know our offense, defense, and team culture? Do I think an experienced player will pick things up quicker than an 18 year old Fr? probably, but the 23 year old transfer and the 18 year old Fr. are starting at the same spot. Can you really be at your best if you haven't mastered the system? and can you master the system in 1 year? I say for most the answer is No. Is there time to identify weaknesses and correct them in 1 year (during the season)?

I bring this all up to say, what the heck is going on with 2024 recruiting? Morez is a stud, but we've missed/passed on James Brown, Nojus, and Certa. I can't tell you who any of our top targets are. According to the recruiting sites we aren't warm on any high school recruits. I'm a little concerned we're spending so much time getting old, that we aren't in a good position to bring in the guys that can get old in the system.

So insiders, who in the heck are our top high school targets? Are there any we are actually sitting pretty with? or has Underwood just shifted his recruiting to say I'm sure there will be another 1,000 experienced players next year, I'll wait for them? The first year that strategy worked out well landing big fish in Mayer and Shannon, but it didn't really turn into results on the court, at least not to the level we hoped. Now this season I'm not as sure who our top targets actually were, but we clearly struck out on PG and seemed to set our sights lower and go after role players instead of lead players.

That said, we know for sure that Shannon, Hawkins, Domask, Guerrier, and Harmon will be gone. Given the state of college basketball we should probably expect a transfer or 2. Let's just say 1 guy transfers, meaning we will need 6 new players next year, and we currently only have 1 committed for 2024. I may be the only one, but a little concerned about this, and by a little I mean more than a little.
 
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john1952

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When on talks about what is more important, winning the Big 10, total number of wins and/0r whether a coach is on the hot seat or not, , one has to consider the tremendous revenue a team can generate for the conference and the university by making a "deep run" in the tournament.



How is the March Madness money divided?
Of the 68 teams that play in the tournament from the start, the respective conferences will have a “Basketball Performance Fund”, which was around $170 million last year. For each game played, each team’s conference will get a payout based on its performance over a six-year rolling period with “units” distributed for its participation. A unit’s value will rise by 3% every year. If a team makes it to the final, they can make as many as five units. According to Sportico, a unit was worth $337,141 in 2021. In 2022, $169.4 million was paid out from the performance fund.
For the bigger conferences, this payout is a bonus. For the smaller, lesser-known conferences, it can account for a major source of their revenue. In 2014, the Washington Post reported that smaller conferences can still make around 20-25% of their total revenue from the March Madness tournament, even if they don’t make a deep run.
The NCAA urges the conference to distribute the earnings equally to the schools, but it is not a requirement. Typically, the bigger conferences will divide the money and send it to its member schools. The smaller ones, however, need the money to cover their own expenses, and then will send what’s left to its member school

In 2023 the SEC sent eight teams to the tournament, more than anyone except the Big Ten, and those teams will end the tournament having played 17 games. Each game played will be worth roughly $2 million, according to Sportico’s calculations, paid out in annual installments through 2029, bringing the SEC’s haul to roughly $34 million. The Big 12 is next with 16 games played for $32 million, followed by the Big East with 15 games for $30 million.

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How much money do schools get for going to the NCAA March Madness tournament?

March Madness brings in billions of dollars in revenue every year and is watched by millions of people. But how much do the universities actually make?
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Mojoman said:
Sincere is really going to have to work hard this summer to get minutes this year. Was significant offensive liability and not a great ball handler or decision maker. Great effort, but spot minute energy guy until he can improve those.
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He works hard all the time and he is a defensive stud. He has a speed that few have and good combo guard size. His points will also come on transition.
 
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BashCtIllini

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SescIllini said:
He works hard all the time and he is a defensive stud. He has a speed that few have and good combo guard size. His points will also come on transition.
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How do you play Sencire and Williams at the same time? Right now Williams is our only PG. Those 2 together on the court put us at a pretty severe disadvantage on the offensive end. If we don't get another legit PG, then when Sencire comes in do we have to move Harmon to PG, Rodgers, Shannon, Coleman?

It creates added complexity to your lineup decisions. You've got to be able to hit an open shot.
 
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Travis1173

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PIT_ILL said:
Kinda depends on if he enrolled yet
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There’s some discussion on if enrolled is the key or attended a class is the key. I’m not versed well enough in the rules to hang my hat on either, but when Kiffin left Tennessee in January 2010 he was calling his recruits like Tyler Bray who had enrolled and telling them not to attend class. Take that for what it’s worth because I’m not sure Kiffin knows the rule book better than any of us.
 
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