Purdue 44, Illinois 19 Postgame

#176      
While out exercising this morning, I thought about the game and the whole Illinois football situation. This thought popped into my head: Walters may be the equivalent of Matt Campbell and Bielema, Beckman.

A quick internet search revealed others have had this same thought. It may be an unfair characterization, but....................
 
#177      
It sucks because it was Ryan Walters showing us just how bad we are. It sucks because by far our worst unit (OL) is supposed to be our head coach’s area of expertise. It sucks because a lot of people bought the hard sell this offseason. It just sucks…
This isn't a proven top football program, so recruiting elite talent and developing it is more difficult. Even some losing football schools programs have packed stadiums. However, I do feel our Head Coach has shown he is an expert on the O Line. The difficult more challenging task for our coach is landing the right type of young men he can develop in to those elite NFL prospects like he has proven he can do. Its tough to Against other programs with stadiums packed full, that are winning then us landing those elite caliber players will be an uphill battle. Even Alabama has guys graduate and transfet and new players need to be developed the difference is they are big, huge, and damn good to start with. They are down this year but I watched them still have new guys that are over 350lbs and can move. We are a basketball school and while support for football has improved until fans consistently come out like at footballs schools even when they struggle at times even like Bama did twenty years ago , or Nebraska and others at times. It will be even more challenge for any coach at Illinois.
 
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#180      
I won't lie to you fellow Illini, my expectations needle for the remainder of this season is pegged in the red area. Looks like my two best choices going forward are between a frontal lobotomy or a bottle in front of me.
Go for the lobotomy and be a lifelong Illini fan!
 
#181      
While out exercising this morning, I thought about the game and the whole Illinois football situation. This thought popped into my head: Walters may be the equivalent of Matt Campbell and Bielema, Beckman.

A quick internet search revealed others have had this same thought. It may be an unfair characterization, but....................
Well, no. Not even close.
 
#182      
This gave me a chuckle. It made me imagine NFL teams having to draft players based on their college coaches' word (because there was no such thing as game tape, combine, personal workouts, etc.).
Obviously NFL teams go off of their own evaluations, but they wouldn't waste their time asking college coaches about their players if it had absolutely no effect. LOL
 
#183      
If we lose to Nebraska this Friday (stop scheduling Friday night games), I will have lost complete faith in the players and coaches. We are all paying customers (we buy tickets and merchandise) but I cannot continue if there is a decline and no improvement.

The largest, and I mean the largest issue this team faces, is the absolute nonsense in between plays. Everyone can disagree with me, but our players lack complete discipline. This starts with the head Coach. I'm calling you out Bret Bielema. Discipline is on you. I hope somehow this message will get to you, Bret. FIX IT.
 
#184      
I thought that we were a better team than this. I was wrong.
I think it’s very hard for fans to have known preseason how poorly the offensive line was going to perform.
Perhaps there are other posters who can identify these issues early. I am not one of them.

I am still struggling to understand why our defense can’t stop 3rd down plays.
I would appreciate any further insight.
 
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#185      
Avery Jones, that IOL we lost to Auburn may have helped to solidify the OL.
No, he wouldn't have. He's a center and would have replaced Kreutz, who up to this point is our top performing o-line player. Maybe from a blocking assignment and blitz recognition callout he'd help, but that hasn't even been the main issue, which is that we have nobody capable of playing RT on our roster, Gesky and Crisler have struggled hard, and even Pearl has been fairly leaky at LT.

Bringing in Jones wouldn't have made any of these things better. What this is, is a major miss in talent evaluation, recruiting, and transfer portalling for B10 ready Tackles and Guards. Center and RT were the 2 question marks we had coming into the season. LT, LG, and RG were expected to be rock solid and one of our strengths. We seemed to fill the center role ok, but the rest has been a disaster.
 
#186      
The largest, and I mean the largest issue this team faces, is the absolute nonsense in between plays. Everyone can disagree with me, but our players lack complete discipline. This starts with the head Coach. I'm calling you out Bret Bielema. Discipline is on you. I hope somehow this message will get to you, Bret. FIX IT.
Frustrating to see it continue, knowing it’s so easily fixed. Yet we tolerate it.

The clowns doing it are an embarrassment to our team and university. Repeated penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct are one of the few things that will prompt me to change the channel or walk out of a game. I refuse to participate in a clown show. Let your play, as a team, for all 60 minutes, do the taunting.
 
#187      

blackdog

Champaign
Frustrating to see it continue, knowing it’s so easily fixed. Yet we tolerate it.

The clowns doing it are an embarrassment to our team and university. Repeated penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct are one of the few things that will prompt me to change the channel or walk out of a game. I refuse to participate in a clown show. Let your play, as a team, for all 60 minutes, do the taunting.

Why are we complaining about this? We had 0 taunting or unsportsmanlike penalties for several weeks in a row. All of the (many) penalties were during play. Yes they need to clean those up but it's football technique that's the problem.
 
#189      

Illini92and96

Austin, TX
While out exercising this morning, I thought about the game and the whole Illinois football situation. This thought popped into my head: Walters may be the equivalent of Matt Campbell and Bielema, Beckman.

A quick internet search revealed others have had this same thought. It may be an unfair characterization, but....................
Bielema proved his competence at Wisky, though not saying he is working his magic this year. I'm hoping its poor decision making by his underlings, obviously which he chose.
 
#190      
Why are we complaining about this? We had 0 taunting or unsportsmanlike penalties for several weeks in a row. All of the (many) penalties were during play. Yes they need to clean those up but it's football technique that's the problem.
Because we continue to push the boundary. And because it’s a bad look, especially when you’re getting blown out.
 
#192      
Because we continue to push the boundary. And because it’s a bad look, especially when you’re getting blown out.
Yeah, it gives me pangs. There is something selfish about it. It's like the dorks in the NFL who get up off the ground and signal first down when they're down 21 with 6 minutes to go. (That whole signalling first down thing is about as fresh as the choreographed burlesque endzone celebrations these mans perform after scoring, but I digress).
 
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DeonThomas

South Carolina
While out exercising this morning, I thought about the game and the whole Illinois football situation. This thought popped into my head: Walters may be the equivalent of Matt Campbell and Bielema, Beckman.

A quick internet search revealed others have had this same thought. It may be an unfair characterization, but....................
No matter how bad things ever get around here.........................Bielema is NOT Beckman!
 
#194      
While out exercising this morning, I thought about the game and the whole Illinois football situation. This thought popped into my head: Walters may be the equivalent of Matt Campbell and Bielema, Beckman.

A quick internet search revealed others have had this same thought. It may be an unfair characterization, but....................
Bill Belichick would not have put Tim Beckman on his staff. Let’s just stop right there.

There are some very concerning issues with this program but if this regime is doomed it won’t be because the head coach doesn’t want to do the grind required in the college game and is mailing it in and cashing checks at the tail end of a long career. And it won’t be because the head coach is an incompetent half-wit who’s in at least three depths over his head. The failure will be for entirely new and unique and probably even more scary reasons.
 
#195      

Central IL Illini

Springfield, IL
I think we underestimated how important it was to have a bunch of NFL guys on the roster. Sorta seems like last year was a perfect confluence of events with a group of non highly rated guys developing into NFL level prospects. Will be interesting to see how Bielema adjusts. He hasn't been able to recruit elite athletes yet and most of the success last year was based off guys Lovie brought in.
 
#197      
As an owner of 4 of the 10,000 new season tickets sold this year I was drawn in with a few sips of the kool-aid left over from last year. I was still fairly optimistic about a bowl appearance before today’s game as well. Now - well…feel free to stop by and say hi in the Research Park! We’re still gonna tailgate to the best of our ability!View attachment 28286
Hey, what else can you do. Just enjoy the atmosphere. Were I local I would’ve bought season tickets too.
 
#198      
I think it’s very hard for fans to have known preseason how poorly the offensive line was going to perform.
Perhaps there are other posters who can identify these issues early. I am not one of them.

I am still struggling to understand why our defense can’t stop 3rd down plays.
I would appreciate any further insight.
Also hard for the coaching staff since they are going against our defensive line in practice. If they are both bad, they both actually might look good.
 
#199      
Obviously Illinois football program is not where we would like it to be. Kinda of a one step forward two steps back scenario and we're in a two steps back year. The biggest disappointment so far is the offenseive line. Most of our starters are struggling and the backups are worse. We need our backups to be good and the only reason they aren't getting more playing time is because the starters are better. When we make this the norm we can become the type of program we want to be.