Illinois 87, Nebraska 84 OT Postgame

#301      

blackdog

Champaign
When Tominaga is on, he is essentially like Steph Curry in Lincoln. He is a big reason why Nebraska is successfully this year. We basically got the best version of him last night.
While Tominaga was going off and Mast made some 3s, Mast was still 8-21 from the field the rest of the team shot 12-33. Outside of Tominaga Nebraska was 37% from the field and 33% from 3.
 
#302      

frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
Maybe im just an optimist, but Im looking at that 17-5 record and the 8-3 conference record and #10 ranking in KenPom and Top 12-14 ranking in AP and am thinking "We have a pretty damn good team". Even with all the chaos surrounding our best player, we're still one of the 10-12 best teams in the country.

I get weary of statements like "If we play like this against X, we'll get blown out." But we didnt play X last night, we played Nebraska who shot really well from 3. and we beat them. Not all games are going to be Northwestern style 30 point blowouts. Good teams play rough stretches sometimes. And other teams lose, too. If we're struggling a bit at home, we're also winning B10 games on the road, something that's proven to be very hard to do this year. The only goal is to win the game, not win by 30. Let's just enjoy looking at the standings and seeing all those other teams below us, shall we? Instead ofwringing our hands when the wins aren't glamorous.

Thank you, needed to get that out.
 
#303      
There’s a fine line between games well lament while remembering forever and games we’ll breathe a sigh of relief over and quickly forget. This one could’ve gone either way and fortunately it’s fallen into the latter column. 😰
 
#305      
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FWIW, I forewarned about Tominaga-San. Now where are those lotto tickets?

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#306      
While Tominaga was going off and Mast made some 3s, Mast was still 8-21 from the field the rest of the team shot 12-33. Outside of Tominaga Nebraska was 37% from the field and 33% from 3.
No doubt this whole Nebraska team is good.
 
#307      
Good to be on the winning side of a game like this but we got to be better at closing out games. We worked so hard to get to a 10 point lead then lost focus at the end. One thing I think we learned is that while Harmon might be valuable to have on the floor at the end, inbounding the ball is not his strong suit. He made three poor inbounds passes at the finish that could have hurt us a lot more than they did. We gotta find someone else for that role.
 
#308      
I actually thought we played pretty well for large portions of the game. Cannot collapse that like in regulation, just unacceptable. Glad we get to learn from a win.

Also, Nebraska played/shot out of their minds today. Actually thought the d on some of the threes was really good, Tominaga was just on one. That is a legit NCAA Tourney team and we got their A+ game
At some point the fact that multiple teams shoot out of their minds against us leaves our defense, not luck, as the common factor...
 
#311      
I could see myself cussing at quite a few people. Brad Underwood is not one of them.
But....I am sure you could possibly, maybe squint your eyes or think that is is POSSIBLE that a ref might have a reason to cuss BU???

I'm just guessing that BU might use a little colorful language to another adult who could possibly use it back at him.
 
#314      

Bigtex

DFW
Anyone else notice that Ty is close to a violation every time he shoots free throws? He steps forward over the line before the ball hits the rim. I believe they called it on him once in last nights game. I've noticed all year and thought it was an obvious violation.
pretty sure he was called for the violation in the first half - when he was shooting
 
#315      
Nebby fans are going through it on Twitter about the officiating.

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I think they have every right to. We got 2 pretty big bailout calls- one on Domask's jumper at the end of regulation (was it a foul? Yes in a tightly reffed game, but the refs had been letting far worse go all night), and the 2nd being when Domask was trapped in the corner off the inbounds and they called the foul instead of the steal (I do believe this was a foul, but with same time and score, typically refs get caught up in the emotions of the game and let the play go).

Now that said, there were some major misses the other way as well- Quincy being smacked in the face which somehow was a no call, Tominaga with a very obvious gigantic travel leading to a Nebraska 3, and 3 moving screens called against Illinois while none were called on Nebraska where Mast especially was doing the exact same thing.

Overall, I thought the refs had some bad moments last night, but it wasn't called in one direction or the other. We just benefitted from 2 big calls in the final minute. And yes, we'd be angry about that too if it went against us.
 
#317      
At some point the fact that multiple teams shoot out of their minds against us leaves our defense, not luck, as the common factor...
There's a difference between guys getting wide open looks, and guys hitting tough shots. I didn't see a bunch of the former. Nebraska was hitting contested shots. There were multiple scrambles for loose balls that ended up in the hands of a Husker and resulted in a 3. Creating chaos is a goal of the defense. It just seemed like all the bounces were going their way for stretches.
Every team has multiple games where an opponent goes off, and it's not luck. Just as every top 10 team has had to win a handful of games ugly. We see them all the time, we just don't notice them as much because they don't cause us coronary events. Every team in the league has guys who are extremely capable of hurting you. Even the best teams are only a few possessions better than most of the teams in their league. It's always a rock fight.
 
#318      
I know we will need TJ to reach our full potential, but he is killing us right now.

He's shooting 22/61 (36%) from the field and 7/36 (19%) from 3 since his return. It is trending up, but he needs to shoot at a lower volume until he gets his shot back. I'm not sure his defense is making up that difference right now either.
He needs to take it to the basket more in the half court especially with smaller defenders on him- he’s settling for three point shots way too much

The biggest thing with TJ’s integration back into the team he isn’t using the defensive attention he gets to set up teammates as much as he did earlier in the year- some drive and dish from TJ in the half court would make a world of difference
 
#319      

frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
I think they have every right to. We got 2 pretty big bailout calls- one on Domask's jumper at the end of regulation (was it a foul? Yes in a tightly reffed game, but the refs had been letting far worse go all night), and the 2nd being when Domask was trapped in the corner off the inbounds and they called the foul instead of the steal (I do believe this was a foul, but with same time and score, typically refs get caught up in the emotions of the game and let the play go).

Now that said, there were some major misses the other way as well- Quincy being smacked in the face which somehow was a no call, Tominaga with a very obvious gigantic travel leading to a Nebraska 3, and 3 moving screens called against Illinois while none were called on Nebraska where Mast especially was doing the exact same thing.

Overall, I thought the refs had some bad moments last night, but it wasn't called in one direction or the other. We just benefitted from 2 big calls in the final minute. And yes, we'd be angry about that too if it went against us.
And this is why I HATE when people bi*** about the refs costing games. Cause EVERYONE can point to a call in a game that went against them. And everyone would be right. It's just a way of not accepting a loss, which seems to be quite a popular pastime. Accept the wins, accept the losses, and move forward
 
#320      
not taking anything away from Neb but the win belongs to IL thanks in a very large part to Ty Rogers. Two things that I did not understand were the inbound plays, and the time out when going up by 10. This team reminds me of many Illni teams, they get the job done, but it's not painless
 
#321      
At some point the fact that multiple teams shoot out of their minds against us leaves our defense, not luck, as the common factor...

I think there is a little something to it... That's why I have wanted to find shot selection stats/analysis for (in particular) the game vs NW at home and also for the game last night vs NEB at home. Many, many well-contested shots going in during both of those games for our opponents, meanwhile we have short shots and layups rolling off the rim at a 50 percent rate.

We are, after all, sub-300 in CBB in luck rating.

It just seemed like we played 20 points better than NEB last night. There were 2 or 3 absolutely terrible NEB possessions where a lucky bounce ended in a made 3. That's in addition to what I thought I viewed last night as far as overall shot selection.

All of that said with the caveat that I strongly agree with your main point, which is that our defense has went in the toilet. I think both things happened last night: (a) our defense again gave up too many easy 2s and also (b) we were on the wrong end of a lot of dice-rolls. I'm happy we still won, but the defense needs something... badly.
 
#322      
We should have gotten to the free throw line at least ten more times tonight. I think once Brad got Td up they made it a point to not call anything on our drives to the basket. I don't think I have seen a second half officiated like that all year.
And this is the answer to the other poster(s) who asked why TSJ was putting up 3s instead of driving. He knew he'd get hammered and no call.
 
#324      
I think they have every right to. We got 2 pretty big bailout calls- one on Domask's jumper at the end of regulation (was it a foul? Yes in a tightly reffed game, but the refs had been letting far worse go all night), and the 2nd being when Domask was trapped in the corner off the inbounds and they called the foul instead of the steal (I do believe this was a foul, but with same time and score, typically refs get caught up in the emotions of the game and let the play go).

Now that said, there were some major misses the other way as well- Quincy being smacked in the face which somehow was a no call, Tominaga with a very obvious gigantic travel leading to a Nebraska 3, and 3 moving screens called against Illinois while none were called on Nebraska where Mast especially was doing the exact same thing.

Overall, I thought the refs had some bad moments last night, but it wasn't called in one direction or the other. We just benefitted from 2 big calls in the final minute. And yes, we'd be angry about that too if it went against us.

I saw 2 fouls where we didn't get FTs but were obviously in the act of shooting (one on TSJ, one on Hawkins). Then the foul at the end where Mast got FTs but wasn't in the act of shooting. That's a potential swing of 6 points right there.

Also, Domask had an obvious travel that wasn't called. He even posted on Twitter: "I think I got away with one lol" or something like that.
 
#325      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Then the foul at the end where Mast got FTs but wasn't in the act of shooting.
Which was completely insane and no one reacted! I feel like I must have missed something, because it looked crystal clearly like he was kicking out to a shooter facing 180 degrees away from the basket. It would be unlike our players and coaches not to throw a fit about that.

All in all we definitely got some home cooking last night though let's be real. We'd have lost our minds about that gift call on the Domask trap when we were collapsing.