Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
Tough for incoming players who are not top 25 who don’t accept a role where they will spend time behind high level transfers. Most top programs will have to show it‘s worth taking a back seat learning and playing everyday against the best to grow their game and find players willing to accept it.
Chuck Nuggets
Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
We're just openly dragging our signed recruits through the mud now?From what I've heard ...
Not an EDG ...
In the eight minutes that Ty played we got killed. He did nothing to counter act the disadvantage we were giving up while he was on the floor.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
The value for HS recruits to attend mid-tier programs has never been stronger. The NIL money for non-elite HSers is really limited. Going off the list of programs mentioned before, you can go to a Colorado State type of program and get 20 minutes as a freshman. If you're successful, you can then enter the portal and get offers from better programs because you're now a proven asset. If you start at the top programs but only get 5-6 minutes/game, you're unknown and likely at-risk of being over recruited.
It's amazing how quickly this stuff has changed - the entire 2021 class likely never happens in the current environment. Someone like RJ Melendez is the prototype of someone who should have went to a program like USF to "audition" for better programs through significant playing time as a freshman. That way instead of him coming to Illinois with zero or little NIL, he can play a ton at USF and then commit to a program like Illinois with NIL pay and a very clear understanding of his playing time and team role.
It's amazing how quickly this stuff has changed - the entire 2021 class likely never happens in the current environment. Someone like RJ Melendez is the prototype of someone who should have went to a program like USF to "audition" for better programs through significant playing time as a freshman. That way instead of him coming to Illinois with zero or little NIL, he can play a ton at USF and then commit to a program like Illinois with NIL pay and a very clear understanding of his playing time and team role.
Him moving up the rankings and playing well lately has gone to his family's head.From what I've heard ...
Not an EDG ...
We are the reason he was moved up in rankings and people started to notice him. First and only real P5 school on his offer list.
He wasn't going to get tick with us this year considering the incoming transfers and possibly a 5* guard. Just funny because we got him a few really good NIL deals.
DGL is light-years ahead of him right now.
I call the situation like it is or like I've heard it on good authority ... Just like I do with any situation ...
No reason to sugar coat it ... If I said nothing and he left, y'all would be whining that I didn't let y'all know ahead of time ...
Can't have it both ways ...We certainly didn't tell him to leave ... But this is the freaking U of I ... We ain't begging anyone to stay ... And we certainly ain't taking demands from a kid who's only P5 offer was us ...
Seems we have learned our lesson from previous situation(s). I'm not opposed to losing him if he is asking for guaranteed playing time. I won't say anything negative about the kid, but that's not the approach I want to see from incoming freshmen.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Possible hot take: Programs like Illinois should only be taking incoming freshman that are going to play in their first year or rare situations where the player's talent and commitment to the program makes them almost a lock as a long-term asset. Everything else should be filled by the portal/NIL.
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
partially true. but he went head to head against some pretty highly rated dudes, including Burries. his play had a lot to do with his rise too
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
if Jase has shown he can play at a high level, he shouldn‘t be making any demands. Take your NIL and Prove it in practice and on the court.
Definitely a rational strategy. We may be doing that, actually. Things are evolving rapidly, and sure seems like this coaching staff is nimble.
Joel Goodson
- dawgville
now, that's different. a demand v a hope. if that's true, I'm glad Brad said nope
it will be pretty ironic if Chester's greatest coup is from a kid who didn't make it to campus
Sooooo Fears reclass back on the table then?
Fears isn’t going to reclass.
well, yeah, because we know that there is no guaranteed playing time for anyone. Or so I've heard earlier in this thread.
Fears will stay 2025 ...
well, this is pretty absurd. the reason to sugar coat it is to not have players names dragged through the mud. No one in the program or speaking with any sort of "insider" knowledge should give a d@mn about how the board reacts to anything. You sound like Bruce Weber.I call the situation like it is or like I've heard it on good authority ... Just like I do with any situation ...
No reason to sugar coat it ... If I said nothing and he left, y'all would be whining that I didn't let y'all know ahead of time ...
We certainly didn't tell him to leave ... But this is the freaking U of I ... We ain't begging anyone to stay ... And we certainly ain't taking demands from a kid who's only P5 offer was us ...
Skyy Clark was guaranteed a starting spot and look how that turned out. If you aren’t willing to come in and earn your minutes you should go somewhere else. You want kids in the program like Amani who are willing to come in and earn it.
So he's deserving of his ranking based on his play? Or he's not?
I get that we caught on first or much earlier than others. But the kid is who he is not because of us but because of what he's done on his own and with his own effort and commitment.
Chuck Nuggets
Dip your nuggets in my staff source sauce.
Right. Posters would be whining because you didn't call a high school kid soft, when in actuality you don't know a damned thing about the kid.I call the situation like it is or like I've heard it on good authority ... Just like I do with any situation ...
No reason to sugar coat it ... If I said nothing and he left, y'all would be whining that I didn't let y'all know ahead of time ...
We certainly didn't tell him to leave ... But this is the freaking U of I ... We ain't begging anyone to stay ... And we certainly ain't taking demands from a kid who's only P5 offer was us ...
Hope not, he's not ready physically and point guards reclassing seldom seems to work like everyone hopes they will.
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