Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year

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Not really sure how Illinois recovers from this one. He was one of the more reliable outside shooters we had and could really light up the scoreboard..............

Oh wait, he actually could not score outside of about 1 foot and averaged 6 points a game. Somehow I think Illinois will absorb this loss.
 
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Driving to East Lansing in a Chevy Blazer bought with Illinois NIL money. All his replacements portal-ing out or being drafted. Tomi is retroactively disqualified due to accepting a hamburger during our recruitment of him.
And then he gets drafted after next year and we decide to go back to building with home grown illinois high schoolers.
 
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n StateI think I'll try to inject some fun Loyalty levity in this sitch with a fun question!!

What's the most "Illinois" thing that will happen with Ty's situation now?

Go!
Transfers to Michigan State bringing TA with him as assistant coach. Izzone Portalzone
 
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I think I'll try to inject some fun Loyalty levity in this sitch with a fun question!!

What's the most "Illinois" thing that will happen with Ty's situation now?

Go!
Transfers to Loyola Chicago, beats us in the first round in the tournament and is a first round draft pick after averaging 16, 9 and 5 hitting 40% from three

In interviews after the season he will say he finally had the opportunity to showcase his offensive game after being held back at Illinois and told not to shoot

Loyalty board goes ballistic losing to Ty in the first round and calls to fire Brad reign down
 
#405      
I would love Ty to learn a jump shot, star in college and make it NBA. He played his heart out for us last 2 years and was key component of B10 championship and elite 8.

He needs to go somewhere and start shooting. JMO but he should go to G5 school like SIU and just shoot 15 times per game. Of course if he wants to transfer back after I would be good with that too.
 
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Transfers to Loyola Chicago, beats us in the first round in the tournament and is a first round draft pick after averaging 16, 9 and 5 hitting 40% from three

In interviews after the season he will say he finally had the opportunity to showcase his offensive game after being held back at Illinois and told not to shoot

Loyalty board goes ballistic losing to Ty in the first round and calls to fire Brad reign down
Nervous Key And Peele GIF

Don't speak it into existence...
 
#407      
Transfers to Loyola Chicago, beats us in the first round in the tournament and is a first round draft pick after averaging 16, 9 and 5 hitting 40% from three

In interviews after the season he will say he finally had the opportunity to showcase his offensive game after being held back at Illinois and told not to shoot

Loyalty board goes ballistic losing to Ty in the first round and calls to fire Brad reign down


Literally stopped reading after this... :ROFLMAO:
 
#408      
I unexpectedly (car trouble on the way to the football game) was in Champaign still on Monday. Bought a ticket, I assume from a season pass holder, second row directly across form the Illini bench. Was excited to see all these new players up close. Before the lineups were announced, I notice Ty in sweats. Since, I had been pre-occupied for a couple days, my first thought was he had a minor injury that I missed. My second thought was, too bad I was looking forward to seeing if he was willing to take shots and especially to see him at the FT line. Nothing during the game looked unusual to me. He was engaged with the team and coaches, and in particular I saw Tomi with his arm around him as they were discussing something during a timeout. When I got home yesterday I read this thread title and scanned it quickly. I am sure every point of view has been shared and I am probably repeating things that have been said and couple questions.

1. It makes sense for somebody like Ty to plan on a 5 year collegiate career, for the obvious financial reasons and adding more time to improve his skills.
2. Clearly there was a great connection and admiration between Ty-BU-UofI-Illini fans. When the team was introduced at the Illini-Purdue football game, Ty clearly received the best ovation. I said to my wife, "The fans know him, many don't know who all these other guys are".
3. After watching these guys the other night (I know it was EIU), with this mix of players, I don't know how he could get even 15 minutes. Even at that, I think Brad would have had to look for those minutes to give.
4. My gut tells me, Ty knew this and BU confirmed it for him.
5. If he made a good personal decision to be patient and get that extra year, then this is the year to do it. And I have to give him credit for his maturity. I don't know how many people that age could do that and sit out a year of playing with this team/teammates.
6.. With the current environment, nobody knows what the team makeup will look like next year. There may be more opportunity. I am not trying to be an eternal optimist, but what if WR and KJ decide to go pro, Tre decides he still hasn't found a home, and BH is gone? So here are my questions

Why wouldn't he wait as long as he can, like after the season, to make his decision? Most activity happens then anyhow. Unless of course he gets an incredibke NIL offer, but I just don't see that from teams that he would want to play for. But, is all this a moot point and he has already made the decision to leave?
 
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I think I'll try to inject some fun Loyalty levity in this sitch with a fun question!!

What's the most "Illinois" thing that will happen with Ty's situation now?

Go!
The same thing that happened to Lou Brock after he got traded to St. Louis from the Cubbies for that other "Hall of Famer", Ernie Broglio: To the Hall of Fame with you!
 
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Ty needs to stay. He's a glue guy who when (and I hope not), the Illini fall short of bringing in the revolving door of high paid NIL players. that being said, he wants to not just play, but start, and I wouldn't want him on the Illini if he didn't. All I can say is that I hope he sticks around.
 
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The same thing that happened to Lou Brock after he got traded to St. Louis from the Cubbies for that other "Hall of Famer", Ernie Broglio: To the Hall of Fame with you!
My aunt took me to Wiebolts Dept. Store in Chicago on a Monday offday to see some of the Cubs including Lou Brock who I most wanted to meet. Only he wasn't there. That was the day he was traded to the Cardinals.
 
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I think I'll try to inject some fun Loyalty levity in this sitch with a fun question!!

What's the most "Illinois" thing that will happen with Ty's situation now?

Go!
Ty will forgo multiple NIL opportunities; and instead opt to play football here at Illinois.

He will prove a natural!It will become evident that is his best sport. He will be an All-American at wide receiver and will play defense as well. He will prove to be the key ingredient in Illinois team that finally goes the distance…goes to the playoffs and defeats the upper echelon of college football…losing only once to the eventual national champs.

Yet without warning/explanation the NCAA
will force Illinois to vacate all victories. It will be known as “Another Damn Illinois Rule”

It will also later come to light that Ty violated an NIL rule of selling perishable goods on the third Thursday of the month in leap year. (Slushies to be exact.)It will be forever known as “The Slushie Fund”.
 
#415      
He’s gonna sit out … Collect his NIL … And leave …

This is the kind of 💩 that is going to start to tick off big donors …

Why should they pay for a kid to sit out and not play and have both feet out the door ???
I feel like everyone is overlooking a key point about the impact of these decisions. Our NIL funds are not unlimited, and for the donors who contribute to the pool, they expect a certain level of commitment and transparency. These supporters aren’t investing for players to unexpectedly decide to sit out a season and transfer to another institution without prior conversations regarding their overall intentions.

Take Jakstys as an example—I would assume that any plans impacting the roster and budget were thoroughly discussed in advance. However, situations like those involving Ty and Sencire could pose significant challenges with donor relations in future years.

Hoping some legal framework or guardrails are coming to ensure stability moving forward.
 
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I feel like everyone is overlooking a key point about the impact of these decisions. Our NIL funds are not unlimited, and for the donors who contribute to the pool, they expect a certain level of commitment and transparency. These supporters aren’t investing for players to unexpectedly decide to sit out a season and transfer to another institution without prior conversations regarding their overall intentions.

Take Jakstys as an example—I would assume that any plans impacting the roster and budget were thoroughly discussed in advance. However, situations like those involving Ty and Sencire could pose significant challenges with donor relations in future years.

Hoping some legal framework or guardrails are coming to ensure stability moving forward.
This will be the third NIL "dry well" in three years - Skyy, Sencire, and now Ty. Perhaps some waste is already built into the system? Really, how different is it from providing NIL for someone who never sees the court (due to injury or lack of productivity)?
 
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I feel like everyone is overlooking a key point about the impact of these decisions. Our NIL funds are not unlimited, and for the donors who contribute to the pool, they expect a certain level of commitment and transparency. These supporters aren’t investing for players to unexpectedly decide to sit out a season and transfer to another institution without prior conversations regarding their overall intentions.
On the one hand, basketball is where there is a chance to win a NC, so it makes complete sense to make basketball the NIL focus and to build a strong and deep team there. On the other hand, it would have been nice if the Skyy/Harris/Ty NIL could have gone to Bret and the football team for players who would play instead of wasted on the basketball bench.
 
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I feel like everyone is overlooking a key point about the impact of these decisions. Our NIL funds are not unlimited, and for the donors who contribute to the pool, they expect a certain level of commitment and transparency. These supporters aren’t investing for players to unexpectedly decide to sit out a season and transfer to another institution without prior conversations regarding their overall intentions.

Take Jakstys as an example—I would assume that any plans impacting the roster and budget were thoroughly discussed in advance. However, situations like those involving Ty and Sencire could pose significant challenges with donor relations in future years.

Hoping some legal framework or guardrails are coming to ensure stability moving forward.
There's a prevailing thought in industry that just because you pay an employee that they should be 100% loyal and grateful to you, and will bend over backwards to you. And that makes some sense, you're giving them a job. But what happens when the policies you enforce are no longer good or healthy for the employee or simply not competitive to other companies in the field? What if you don't internally promote people or give people raises but instead pay competitively for new hires to fill those positions such that it'd actually be far more profitable for an employee to quit and be rehired in? Or you regularly are laying off full time employees but somehow seem to always be adding more outsourcing? You may desire 100% loyalty, but should you expect it?

And the donors may indeed feel as you say where they feel they're paying 12 guys handsomely so everyone should be 100% happy and loyal. But I think there needs to be an understanding that a player's situation can change after agreeing to said "contract" just based off how the transfer portal now works. Pre-portal it used to be you knew what recruits and new players were coming to your program prior to deciding whether you wanted to transfer. Now, the transfer portal is closed before you have any idea what your roster will look like. And that’s what happened in Ty's case. The donors wanted high end talent brought in and Brad did. There can be fallout from that. And it's a well known consequence. Yes, donors and employers can stick their heads in the sand and say "how dare our employees be disloyal!", but at the same time, should they be surprised that employees leave when the company devalue them?

Let's do a hypothetical example. Say you're a 5th year senior. You bleed orange and blue and played your heart out in the spot minutes you got the past 4 years. First to the gym, last to leave, always gave your all. Great locker room presence, amazing leader, and a skilled player who has improved each year but not as skilled as the older more experienced guys ahead of you. And here in your final season, those players graduated, it's finally your time to show off your skills, take the mantle. Be the guy, the captain, and play for a chance at a professional contract. And the coach tells you, you're going to be that guy and how important you are. And then just 1 month later, post transfer portal brings in 6 new guys and tells you he loves what you bring but you're going to only get clean up minutes. Should you be forced to stay? Never get a chance to start or show off your skills for a shot at a pro contract when many other teams would be giving you that opportunity? Do you not feel taken advantage of and strung along? Should anyone blame you for leaving?

The fact is this is just how the current system and portal operates. Donors can howl at the moon day and night about it, but the players can't be forced to abide by something that is absolutely not in their best interest. The donors believe in bringing in high end talent, and bringing in said talent is thus in their best interest, but it doesn't mean there aren't consequences.
 
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Illinois gets to the national championship game.

Has a bunch of foul trouble and injuries. Ty burns his red shirt to hit a buzzer beater 3 to win the championship.
I question your fandom if you think that is the most "Illinois thing."

More likely we get to the national championship, have a big lead, but have a bunch of foul trouble and injuries and can't put a full team on the court because Ty redshirted and we have to forfeit.
 
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I think I'll try to inject some fun Loyalty levity in this sitch with a fun question!!

What's the most "Illinois" thing that will happen with Ty's situation now?

Go!
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
 
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