Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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Curbelo Fanboy
OrangeBlue98 said:
We might as well make a box and one our default defense, because it seemed like someone had a career game against us every game. (OK, more than a little sarcasm there)

Back to being serious-I generally believe that it’s better to be great at one thing than just good or medicore at several things. But offense today is so good that I do think you need a few wrinkles to keep good coaches from scouting you well. I don’t care how great you are at doing something. If you do the same thing all the time, eventually a good coach will exploit it.
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This was the point I was trying to make yesterday. I think a well coached team should have a few “gadgets” at their disposal. The one I go back to is the year Majerus at Utah threw a triangle and 2 at Zona in a regional final to shut down Simon and Bobby and Utah rolled

Zone is by no means a magic pill. Just another tool to have at your disposal. Sort of like football trick plays. U don’t use em all the time but practice them enough to have at hand when wanted.

It’s an example of inflexibility sometimes leaving u at a tactical disadvantage. I’d put our in bound plays as another example. They’ve been bad for years with no apparent improvement.

Obviously Brad thinks differently.
 
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IlliniFan42
IMPE Legend said:
Figured he was next in but hadn't seen he went in today. I would say Chester is out of luck
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I said Harris would be a problem for the new coach when he's upset Chester isn't hired, so good for WVU for nipping that in the bud.
 
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bavanga3
ugottabjoshinme said:
Because he has never been a head coach and isn't going to be given a high major job as his first job.


This is just a title for more assistant coach money. Has nothing to do with head coach in waiting.
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Jon Scheyer? Never been a head coach and gets the premier college job. Happens all the time. Bad reasoning. Chester has paid his dues.
 
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gary?
bavanga3 said:
Jon Scheyer? Never been a head coach and gets the premier college job. Happens all the time. Bad reasoning. Chester has paid his dues.
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scheyer was announced a year before K retired and was a player and an asst under K at that same school.
davis played at unc, and while he didn’t play under williams he was an asst there for 9 years. davis also had a decent nba career, which helped his cause (even if it didn’t help others’ failures, ewing, mullins, drexler, etc.)
 
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ChiefGritty
bavanga3 said:
Jon Scheyer? Never been a head coach and gets the premier college job. Happens all the time. Bad reasoning. Chester has paid his dues.
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He has, but it's very difficult to get across that bridge to a good head coaching job.

And now he's sort of at a crossroads again, with Harris and Hansberry presumably in tow.

Probably best for all involved if a marriage can be worked out with Ross Hodge to stay at WVU, but we shall see.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
bavanga3 said:
Jon Scheyer? Never been a head coach and gets the premier college job. Happens all the time. Bad reasoning. Chester has paid his dues.
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He's been at the school for less than one calendar year. Has he even been offered an assistant's position from the coach he just worked under? What does has be paid? What has he accomplished?

Scheyer was groomed by Coach K to take that program over. He actually did pay his dues at the school he played at as a player and was an assistant at, for multiple years, as a coach.

What has Frazier done for West Virginia outside of bring over mediocre players on a non tournament team? What's his value as a coach at the high D1 level? Putting in his dues, if we loved the state of West Virginia, would be to wait to see if Marshall opens up and apply. A few years of success there, THEN he will have paid his dues.
 
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ChiefGritty
Second place is 1st loser said:
What has Frazier done for West Virginia outside of bring over mediocre players on a non tournament team?
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Whoa whoa whoa.

The appeal of Frazier for WVU was pretty straightforward, which was that he could presumably retain the bulk of a roster which saw them have a bounce-back year in which they were, flatly and objectively, a tournament team.
 
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IlliniFan42
ChiefGritty said:
Whoa whoa whoa.

The appeal of Frazier for WVU was pretty straightforward, which was that he could presumably retain the bulk of a roster which saw them have a bounce-back year in which they were, flatly and objectively, a tournament team.
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Woah there, they were a bubble team coached by a new head coach. The only part you could directly attribute to Frazier was bringing over two mediocre players, like the commenter above said. I think it's telling that DeVries got poached after one year and Chester didn't get the job. That tells me that people in the know have a belief in who's responsible for their "success", and it isn't him.
 
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CoalCity
ChiefGritty said:
Whoa whoa whoa.

The appeal of Frazier for WVU was pretty straightforward, which was that he could presumably retain the bulk of a roster which saw them have a bounce-back year in which they were, flatly and objectively, a tournament team.
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Except they weren't a tournament team by the final measure, that of actually being good enough to make the tournament
 
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illini510
Does anyone think Chester would come back to the alma mater or has that ship sailed?
 
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Todd99
grue2 said:
Tyler @120k doesn't seem to be the issue. Yes, he almost certainly got the job through nepotism. His results have been pretty good. The booty ball worked. The 5 out with shooters wasn't a bad plan -- if you have the advertised shooters. The heavy cuts that were added later with Tomi as the point center was excellent. It looks like we are getting Tomi/Morez/Tre/KB back. That means the offense can build on this years results. Add a sniper and this could easily be a top 10 offense. Getting even a top 30 offense for 120k seems like a very good deal in todays market. How much are we looking to spend on a good defensive coach?

Tyler is also probably much better than anyone else at judging his father's moods, and knowing how to "bring him around." This likely smooths things across the program, and not just the offense.

The only issue I can see is if Tyler allows his friendship with Hamer to interfere with sound business decisions.
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Who makes the decisions on the coaching staff regarding assistants? Does Underwood have the final say? What is Whitman's role? Does Whitman have any input or does he leave it solely to the head coach?
 
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grue2 said:
Given the location, Franquake?
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Save that in case he moves to San Francisco, it does not make sense for Philly or for the Quakers
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