I mean if you look at Ben until January, there was no reason for Morez to play over him? Revisionist history is crazy here. The turning point was the MSU game and after that Morez got nearly 25 mpg average
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Add on the fact that he disrespected Kofi on the way out and thinks he’ll be better than him? I don’t want him anywhere near our program. Just reeks of the Adam miller situation
Rumors are rumors. What we KNOW, though, is that Underwood has had a very high level of roster turnover at Illinois. All sorts of reasons for that. But it is a very high level of turnover, and turnover interferes with team success. He needs to fix this, now. I hope Whitman asks him for a plan to do better in exactly this regard.
And when I say "asks" I might mean just a little bit sharper than that. This is Illinois basketball, treat it like the gem it is.
And when I say "asks" I might mean just a little bit sharper than that. This is Illinois basketball, treat it like the gem it is.
I'm trying to prhase this right so correct me if I'm wrong ...So Morez is transferring because he didn't start right away his freshman year? Some are claiming it wasn't about money...So that's all it comes down to is how he was used this year? Should he have started over ben? Yes of course. But he also saw more playing time as the season went along then he broke his wrist. It's really just about feeling he should have been a "starter"? I mean I guess I get it but him and his circle are really so upset about this year that no promises as far as $$$ and starting going forward is enough? That seems over the top IMO
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There's your loyalty.
Remember that Morez was a true 18 year old freshmen. Queen was 19-20 year old freshmen. Dain had to get weight control and develop over 3-4 years. Morez going to have the sophomore leap, hope he goes to BYU and we don't play them.
According to Morez himself, he is leaving because he is “more than a rim runner and rebounder and wants to get more than just that” he also said he didn’t want to end up like Kofi. Essentially sounds like he think of himself much higher than anyone else does
It is about being valued. Money is one grubby way to show that. There are other ways: Painter and Izzo in our conference seem to have figured that out. So has our football coach. Our basketball coach? Work in progress.
Thanks kind sir.i truly felt it was needed with the meltdown of the board.its crazy I go out for dinner for a hour and get on here and we're at def con1
Not to mention that you could spend 3 years doing everything to keep a player on the roster and develop him into a great player and then he or someone in his circle decides they can get a better deal somewhere else and they transfer out.
Any truth to this?
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If this is true, than I'm in the "I want Brad gone" camp now.
I think Morez is more than a rim runner and rebounder too, along the lines that I've posted here repeatedly (jump hooks, elbow jumpers). So do others. If he left because he felt the plan for his development in CU was inadequate, I am going to be even more disappointed in our coaching staff.
So, you and just about everyone else thinks we should have started 4 freshman this year? You are nuts!! Will Riley in my opinion has a higher upside than KJ. Will was the highest rated recruit we have had in 20 years and he could not start early on. It takes time to develop freshman players, let alone have them all on the floor at one time on the road in a hostile big 10 environment. I dare to say he could not have started for any of the other Big Ten teams that finished above us this year. Morez is a nice player and I wish he was staying, but I don't think he is worth the hype everyone is giving this.
Instead of complaining about the new rules, we could ask the question, "Why is this such an issue with us and not with teams like Purdue?" Could it be that the problem is our coach and his staff?
So, you're saying he should have fouled out of every single game he played for us?
They give their guys some sort of personality test. Then they recruit kids that score high for commitment and loyalty. Something like that.
Is the system to be blamed for the transfer portal madness, or is it the team and/or coaching staff, or both? We have seen a number of our top players leaving last few years, but teams like Purdue and MSU are able to retain majority of their top players and the continuity is translating into success.
One hesitates to ask, but: what kind of nuts? Peanuts, cashews or walnuts?
After that snarky note, how about this: we need to win a lot more games. Underwood is struggling to reach the level he repeatedly says he wants to reach: championships. Freshman, seniors, whatever. Just win. That might take more than a season, I think.
Lol that ain’t happenin’, brother.
This is gonna sound like blasphemy against the prevailing narrative against Ben on this board.
Here's the uncomfortable fact: Brad didn't take minutes from Ben and give it to Morez, because Morez just wasn't good enough to take those minutes.
Sure Morez is more athletic, a much better rebounder and overall has a higher ceiling than Ben.
And yes Ben has a lot of limitations and underperformed his expectation, especially shooting wise.
But people seem to have a revisionist view regarding how good Morez's defense was vs. Ben's. The fact is, despite all his flaws Ben was actually less lost on defense than Morez was and was just less foul prone (hence was able to be a body on the floor for longer), for a bug chunk of the season.
Here's the uncomfortable fact: Brad didn't take minutes from Ben and give it to Morez, because Morez just wasn't good enough to take those minutes.
Sure Morez is more athletic, a much better rebounder and overall has a higher ceiling than Ben.
And yes Ben has a lot of limitations and underperformed his expectation, especially shooting wise.
But people seem to have a revisionist view regarding how good Morez's defense was vs. Ben's. The fact is, despite all his flaws Ben was actually less lost on defense than Morez was and was just less foul prone (hence was able to be a body on the floor for longer), for a bug chunk of the season.
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