Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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You mean a drunken , late night trip to Mickey D’s won’t seal the deal? What’s this world coming to?
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Journalists are NOT going to ask Brad any tough questions about his son's relationships with the players. If they do, Brad will not be very cooperative with the media going forward. So the stuff you hear/read from the scribes in Champaign is pretty worthless these days. The insiders on this board are the only real (and accurate) news source on the basketball program. Yet another consequence of the NIL world we live in.
 
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College sports is completely broken. I can't understand why the NCAA wants things to be this way. Its ridiculous. NIL money needs to start being a 2 year commitment and we need to get back to sitting a year out before you transfer.
Pretty sure the NCAA lost all the court cases involving this stuff and this is the outcome of losing those cases.
 
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College sports is completely broken. I can't understand why the NCAA wants things to be this way. Its ridiculous. NIL money needs to start being a 2 year commitment and we need to get back to sitting a year out before you transfer.
Until such a time that the NCAA can get an anti-trust exemption and establish a salary cap, there is 100% power on the side of any player that wants to sue the NCAA for anything. I'm waiting to see when the first challenge to the NCAA's 5 to play 4 rule pops up. The NCAA can't establish or enforce any real rule because they get sued and lose and large portion of the lawsuits. This is how you bring an organization to it's knees, and in the case of certainly college basketball (and likely football) kill of the sport.
 
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No one learns anything from an exit interview.
I don't believe that, they learn, it just depends on whether they want to believe the feedback and if they want to make changes based on that feedback. To me it would be stupid to not at least consider what is being reported in the exit interview. But I also see the other side in that, this is a disgruntled employee, why should I consider anything that this person telling since they are leaving.

I had an exit interview many years ago (1987) where i told the HR director interviewing me that they needs to increase the size of the engineering department, because it was a bottle neck due to an inadequate number of people. I went back to see some old friends that still worked there a couple of years later and they had not only increased the vhead count they put them in a new, larger, updated office space.
 
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Exactly. When you write multiple billions of dollars worth of checks for restricting student/athletes you quit restricting student/athletes.
 
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I always find this Forum interesting. Being an old dude, reliving the Illini Years from my time here in the 80s to now, I find it hard to love college basketball like I did in the past. That's great that these kids get their "income" however as with everything the NCAA does they are behind the 8 Ball in managing NIL. To make it worse I have watch the Smug Face of Bruce Pearl.......................................

Go Illini..................
 
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Can't tell if this is a real take or just a joke. Either way, too little content given.

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not going to draw conclusions off one picture/tweet of Dix waiting for McDonalds and Bos not even in the picture
I’m not even sure if we’ve got Dix properly identified here. Perhaps it’s time to call in the experts:
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i was following the last thread (as close as manageable. That thing was on fire). A couple of observations:

1. The delta between outsider perception of our bball program vs the “hardcore” fans must be as big as I’ve ever seen over my 20+ years of fandom for any sport. I don’t really know what that means, but it’s fascinating. I don’t think any outsider “expert” or even casual Illini fan thinks there are any major issues. While this board is basically melting down. Frankly, I think, to some degree, the outsider perception tends to be more accurate in these situations.


Folks are hooked up to the unfiltered "insider" information on here and it's messing with people's fandom in ways that are a general negative for the majority of posters.

People are buying into various forms of confirmation bias that they've lost perspective. For example, imagine explaining to, say, a Oklahoma fan, that Illinois fans are losing their minds because Brad Underwood has his son on staff, he's in charge of the offense, and it's been a really poor experience. That Oklahoma fan could look up when Tyler Underwood started (summer 2023) and see that Illinois' offensive has been ranked on KenPom as the 3rd and 14th best offensive efficiency units in back-to-back years. Now, I'm sure folks around here would have specific situations or nuance they would want to interject to provide a different perspective to that performance, but an Oklahoma fan (or say, an Iowa football fan wink wink) would KILL to have a nepotism problem like that.

I'm content to read comings-and-goings on this board for Illini basketball, and they absolutely deserve to speak their mind like all of us, but I do think a good chunk of you are taking too many big emotional swings based on "insider" perspectives shared on here. Being the head basketball coach at Illinois means lots of political difficulties from trying to balance the priorities of many competing parties. These political challenges have always existed, it's just some of you are getting exposed to them in a way that you were not before.
 
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Folks are hooked up to the unfiltered "insider" information on here and it's messing with people's fandom in ways that are a general negative for the majority of posters.

People are buying into various forms of confirmation bias that they've lost perspective. For example, imagine explaining to, say, a Oklahoma fan, that Illinois fans are losing their minds because Brad Underwood has his son on staff, he's in charge of the offense, and it's been a really poor experience. That Oklahoma fan could look up when Tyler Underwood started (summer 2023) and see that Illinois' offensive has been ranked on KenPom as the 3rd and 14th best offensive efficiency units in back-to-back years. Now, I'm sure folks around here would have specific situations or nuance they would want to interject to provide a different perspective to that performance, but an Oklahoma fan (or say, an Iowa football fan wink wink) would KILL to have a nepotism problem like that.

I'm content to read comings-and-goings on this board for Illini basketball, and they absolutely deserve to speak their mind like all of us, but I do think a good chunk of you are taking too many big emotional swings based on "insider" perspectives shared on here. Being the head basketball coach at Illinois means lots of political difficulties from trying to balance the priorities of many competing parties. These political challenges have always existed, it's just some of you are getting exposed to them in a way that you were not before.
Yea that’s generally where I’m at too. The insiders on here are fantastic. I really do think they bring the conversation on this board to the next level (and btw, anyone throwing hate their way needs to relax and take a breath lol).

At the same time, like you said, a lot of people are taking what they say and fitting it within a perspective that doesn’t really jive with reality.

As an example, this whole morez Johnson thing - if you just take a timeline approach to this, i believe Johnson committed to Illinois before Tyler took over the offense. He probably committed to a very different system than what we have now and probably didn’t realize how much it was going to change. I don’t think that’s anyone’s fault. Like Tyler or not…nepotism or not, the results speak for themselves. But the perspective gets spun around away from reality.

hamer, on the other hand, is a different situation imo. But that’s where I go back to my point of giving brad the rope and seeing what he doesn’t with it.
 
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College sports is completely broken. I can't understand why the NCAA wants things to be this way. Its ridiculous. NIL money needs to start being a 2 year commitment and we need to get back to sitting a year out before you transfer.
If you are waiting for the NCAA to fix it forget about it.

My solution is schools need to create an incentive based multi year contract which both parties benefit. Have to make it worth for the player if they succeed

Offer a player a 500k starting salary have it where if they come back they can get 750k

Then add perks for making the dance, S16, E8, etc for the team and for the individual making all big ten all American have bonuses

You can even reward certain stats individual to the player. For instance if you can increase FT or 3 point percentage by x amount you get extra money
 
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While I certainly understand that college basketball is less enjoyable with players leaving like this regularly, I really don't understand why everyone is so upset from a basketball perspective as to what has transpired so far. There are dozens of players that are going to be in the portal that are significantly better and better fits for this offensive system than Morez or White.
 
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3:30 AM, Sunday Morning in Champaign. Bars closed almost 2 hours ago. Not a lot of late night options. McDonalds, Merry Ann's - anything else?
 
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