Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Krombopulos_Michael
LvilleILL1 said:
Never a doubt!
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BDMAN
I have to think that the NCAA will have to a start enforcing the NIL deals recruits/players sign with a respective school and institute some sort of tamper rule once a verbal is announced. At this rate college sports will become even more of a have (whomever has the deepest pockets) and have not (Those who do not have the same means to pay). Which would lead to no competitive balance and tarnish the product that they, the NCAA market. There has to be some sort of leveling of the playing field one would have to think, because the current landscape is getting crazier by the minute!!
 
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pruman91
Pikeillinifan said:
Regardless of the Luke scenario, they desperately need to arrive at some level of binding agreements for players, at least on an annual level. I know that causes the whole employee thing to rear its head, but programs need to be able to plan on an annual basis.

At a minimum, if kids decide to leave for greener pastures after having already signed, they will need to pay buyouts similar to coaches. These roster moves at the last minute cause massive ripples and will ALWAYS hurt the smaller programs with less $$

Tennessee is going to find a QB from somewhere, and then that program will be stuck or need to poach from elsewhere; it will never end without someone being empty-handed at the end.
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#135      
Illiniguy74
Mr. Tibbs said:
NIL in theory is great . mostly , we wanted to see players get lifted out of poverty and eliminate the under the table stuff . we envisioned the young linemen & similar getting x (say $20,000) & superstars getting 3x . perhaps that was unrealistic

but this unlimited transfer thing with no sit out has just thrown everything into chaos .

League consolidation is nothing compared to the chaos unlimited transfers is causing .

I hate what college football & basketball has become . I just hate it

Did I say I hate it ?
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I predict that in a few years we will begin hearing/reading stories of former college football and basketball players who received NIL, focused on their "craft" and are now broke and ill equipped to compete in the job market. Blame will somehow be placed on the educational system for not preparing them even though they, in fact, showed little or no interest in academic pursuits.
 
#136      
jmwillini
Basketball is different as guys can go pro after a year. Any way a school's NLI donors pitch recruits on a 2 year deal? High level prospect. 2 mil 1st year, 3 mil 2nd year guarantee with possible bump.

Isuppose you could do the same with basketball also.
 
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mhuml32
Genesis said:
I'd think large donors (investors) are going to start getting squeamish about giving such large sums of money if their likelihood of a good return on their investment can be blown up by a few kids who decide to transfer a few months before the upcoming season.
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I think this is a fair take but I'm on the other side. There are so many mega donors out there (Phil Knight, Mike Repole, Cody Campbell, Carl Cook, The Waltons, Dan Cathy, Les Wexner, Jimmy Haslam, The Pegulas) and other programs have an extremely well-run NIL collective were there isn't a singular donor above others but a large group of very wealthy folks (Georgia, BYU, Texas, TAMU, FSU) that have their identity so entwined into their sport programs that they are willing to poor ungodly sums of money into their program to win. Michigan just spent $10+ million because a billionaire's fourth wife has a connection to the program.

I do see legislation happening to restrict player movement or payments in some way, and that will be derived from enough of these people being burned they they lean on the political process to "protect" them. If/when that happens, you are still going to see people pushing the envelope and spending 8-figures and even 9-figures to win.
 
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OrangeBlue98
Illiniguy74 said:
I predict that in a few years we will begin hearing/reading stories of former college football and basketball players who received NIL, focused on their "craft" and are now broke and ill equipped to compete in the job market. Blame will somehow be placed on the educational system for not preparing them even though they, in fact, showed little or no interest in academic pursuits.
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GForce
mhuml32 said:
I think this is a fair take but I'm on the other side. There are so many mega donors out there (Phil Knight, Mike Repole, Cody Campbell, Carl Cook, The Waltons, Dan Cathy, Les Wexner, Jimmy Haslam, The Pegulas) and other programs have an extremely well-run NIL collective were there isn't a singular donor above others but a large group of very wealthy folks (Georgia, BYU, Texas, TAMU, FSU) that have their identity so entwined into their sport programs that they are willing to poor ungodly sums of money into their program to win. Michigan just spent $10+ million because a billionaire's fourth wife has a connection to the program.

I do see legislation happening to restrict player movement or payments in some way, and that will be derived from enough of these people being burned they they lean on the political process to "protect" them. If/when that happens, you are still going to see people pushing the envelope and spending 8-figures and even 9-figures to win.
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I'm assuming these collectives all have 501(c)(3) status and the donations are thus tax write-offs.
 
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DReq
GForce said:
I'm assuming these collectives all have 501(c)(3) status and the donations are thus tax write-offs.
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I thought when this got started there was some question about this fitting within 501(c)(3). It could be written off if the NIL is used as an advertisement perhaps but even then the amount of compensation seems totally not aligned with the alleged business purpose. Maybe that has all been solved by now but only with some fancy footwork by tax lawyers.
 
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