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#277      
As a 33-year old (so “old” to college kids…), I am the opposite. Would I hate wearing a tie Monday through Friday? Absolutely! However, the occasion to ever wear one is so rare these days that I actually like an excuse to wear one now.
The only issue for me wearing a tie now is I only seem to wear them for job interviews, weddings, and funerals.

And I just got a new job and know it’ll be a while before my own kids are old enough to seriously think about marriage…….
 
#278      
I appreciate the history lesson here. So you’re saying the French are mean or the Croats.
 
#279      
Clement legitimately may be the most underrated player in the country. The guy is rated below 10 catch 50 yard guys in the portal rankings, yet was a very good receiver in the B12. It's also very reasonable to think Bowick would've been a 800+ yard guy at Ball State had he played.
 
#280      
Not sure how much we ever had a chance - although it was said we did - but tight end Tanner Koizol from Ball State is a guy that could've really bolstered the receiving corpse. Overall I'm much more concerned about D-Line than WR.

Never worried about NT as long as Jamison is here (and we have solid options). It's the other DL snaps other than James Thompson.
 
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#281      
^ I'll stop being OT after this, but another great thing about ties?? I am not a fashion guru by any means, haha. When my wife invites me to some "fancy-adjacent" event on a Saturday night with her friends or something, I am kind of jealous of my dad, who at my age just got to pick between like 10 ties, 4 dress shirts and 3 suits ... and he would be in a "new outfit" each time. :ROFLMAO:
I've found over the years that the ladies like a man in a tie. Worth the effort.
 
#286      
I've found over the years that the ladies like a man in a tie. Worth the effort.
The girls go crazy for a sharp dressed man
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#288      
^ I'll stop being OT after this, but another great thing about ties?? I am not a fashion guru by any means, haha. When my wife invites me to some "fancy-adjacent" event on a Saturday night with her friends or something, I am kind of jealous of my dad, who at my age just got to pick between like 10 ties, 4 dress shirts and 3 suits ... and he would be in a "new outfit" each time. :ROFLMAO:
Lead us not into OT temptation... :LOL: ;)

As an old dude (~60) I wore suits for the first 25 year of my career. I loved ties, and still have a killer collection for the relatively rare occasions when I wear a suit. It's the male equivalent of a female's handbag collection, I suppose. However, living in a city that is stifling hot and humid for ~ four months a year, I don't miss carting a jacket around. I enjoy dressing fairly casually every day. I've transferred my accessorizing with ties into doing so with dress shirts. A trade I'm happy to make.

A final, old-school anecdote on this: until the mid-'00s I worked for two capital-intensive corporations engaged in energy production, the sort of business where, if your rotating machinery tolerances are off by a few millimeters or your pressure vessels a fraction of a psi, stuff blows up, fires rage, and people die. Accordingly, these companies had a very disciplined, rigorous approach to investment and operations.

My company went through a big merger a some point. A friend from the acquiring company told me that he worked at HQ at the time. The CEO, a gruff, brilliant Midwesterner, held a town hall for the several hundred HQ employees to ask questions about the merger. This was at a time when workplaces were beginning to allow less formal business attire. Someone got up and asked the CEO if after the merger employees would be able to have "casual Fridays," which was the term at the time for being allowed to dress down one day a week.

The CEO fixed the guy with an icy glare and asked "Exactly what part of your job strikes you as 'casual?'" My friend told me he has never witnessed someone shrink into nothingness so quickly. Just absolutely incinerated in a public forum.
 
#291      
To show you how times have changed, when I was in high school in the late 70's I worked as a bag boy at a grocery store and had to wear a tie at work
After graduating in 1976 I worked as a warehouse supervisor for several years. The dress code at the time called for dress pants and a shirt and tie. Nothing like spending your day sweating in a hot warehouse with long pants and a tie.
 
#292      
I have higher hopes for Bowick, 383yards 20 catches and 3TD in i think 4 games last year
are pretty good #s. If he stays healthy think he will have more than 125 yards for sure. Dont think Elsy gets more the 125 either?

Happy to see your predictions because it's not easy when you stick within reasonable parameters. It's easy to believe in so many WRs:

- Dixon is going to take a big step forward
- Bowick was a monster in the four games he played
- Musk is going to bounce back with a major comeback season
- Clement was awesome as a freshman at WVU
- Arkin will have his best season as a senior
- Elzy finally breaks out
- Hollins showed major flashes last year
- Trimble has been making jaws drop in the spring

....but that many guys aren't going to pop. This is peak July/August hopium. That's why I want to see other people's predictions within the limits as it's a fun barometer on who people think are going to take a step forward and not allowing you also to predict 800 receiving yards for everyone.


I expect more out of Bowick too. Luke threw for over 2,700 yds last year and that number could increase with a returning QB, OC and experienced line. Outside the Illini circle, our receivers don't get a lot of respect because we've lost four good ones to the NFL over the last two years. I'm happy with who we have.


I'll happily take betting action on Altmyer throwing for less yards this year than last year. If Illinois is going to be as good as we all hope this year, they won't be replicating the insane number of close games and comeback wins as 2024, which necessitated more passing plays. It also is a team that doesn't have Bryant and Franklin. If anything, I could be more easily swayed that this team rushes for more yards this season than last season. The experienced o-line is further evidence to support that theory.
 
#293      
REALLY rich coming from Coach Cupcake.
Considering the reactions from those here who are much more knowledgeable about these things, my interpretation of his statement is probably way off. I saw his statement as every team should have similar schedules. Which I guess everyone here understood. But, in his defense, this is just his second year at Indiana, and couldn’t (and I stress “couldn’t) some of these cupcake games have been scheduled years before he arrived at Indiana? He has probably heard the criticisms of his schedule (Probably heard it a lot last year), A schedule which, again, he may not have had anything to do with, especially last year’s, and maybe he is actually advocating for eliminating these cupcakes and kind of standardizing the schedules of all the teams. It could mean a cupcake, some mid-level teams like Toledo, and then more challenging teams combined. Oh, I didn’t read or listen to his whole talk, just responding to what was posted here. But again, I probably misinterpreted it.
 
#294      
Not sure how much we ever had a chance - although it was said we did - but tight end Tanner Koizol from Ball State is a guy that could've really bolstered the receiving corpse. Overall I'm much more concerned about D-Line than WR.

Never worried about NT as long as Jamison is here (and we have solid options). It's the other DL snaps other than James Thompson.
Your choice of words in the first sentence contradicts your second sentence. ;)

We are left for dead in the post-Franklin and post-Bryant world...
 
#295      
I've found over the years that the ladies like a man in a tie. Worth the effort.
A (well tailored) suit and tie is simply the most flattering outfit any man can wear. Take any person and put them in an appropriately tailored suit and they will look so much better than they do in any casual outfit you can muster.

Now, is that sufficient reason to wear a suit every day? For 99.9% of people, no. But as someone who has to wear a suit most days anyway, it is a nice feature. And if I were still single I would definitely not change out of my suit before going out.
 
#296      
Lead us not into OT temptation... :LOL: ;)

As an old dude (~60) I wore suits for the first 25 year of my career. I loved ties, and still have a killer collection for the relatively rare occasions when I wear a suit. It's the male equivalent of a female's handbag collection, I suppose. However, living in a city that is stifling hot and humid for ~ four months a year, I don't miss carting a jacket around. I enjoy dressing fairly casually every day. I've transferred my accessorizing with ties into doing so with dress shirts. A trade I'm happy to make.

A final, old-school anecdote on this: until the mid-'00s I worked for two capital-intensive corporations engaged in energy production, the sort of business where, if your rotating machinery tolerances are off by a few millimeters or your pressure vessels a fraction of a psi, stuff blows up, fires rage, and people die. Accordingly, these companies had a very disciplined, rigorous approach to investment and operations.

My company went through a big merger a some point. A friend from the acquiring company told me that he worked at HQ at the time. The CEO, a gruff, brilliant Midwesterner, held a town hall for the several hundred HQ employees to ask questions about the merger. This was at a time when workplaces were beginning to allow less formal business attire. Someone got up and asked the CEO if after the merger employees would be able to have "casual Fridays," which was the term at the time for being allowed to dress down one day a week.

The CEO fixed the guy with an icy glare and asked "Exactly what part of your job strikes you as 'casual?'" My friend told me he has never witnessed someone shrink into nothingness so quickly. Just absolutely incinerated in a public forum.
Haven't been on Loyalty for awhile. Glad to see we are still having meaningful discussions about serious matters. So... I started as a Systems Engineer with direct customer interface and was expected to wear a tie. Moved on to Project Management, Sales, Business Development, Leadership roles, etc., all with the "tie and jacket wearing' expectations. I always resisted, but .... over 20-25 years I travelled a lot and bought a lot of ties. I would buy them in airports and did not hesitate buying and wearing some of the most "gawd-awful" ties I could find. After a career transition in the early 2000's, I gladly stopped wearing ties. About 10-12 years ago I started giving ties to my son and 2 S-i-Ls for Christmas (along with a good bottle wine). All from my "collection". They rarely have any need for a tie, but the thrill of opening that bag to see what it holds has been worth not tossing them. Since my wife assured them, they no longer ask me if I really wore them.
 
#297      
Considering the reactions from those here who are much more knowledgeable about these things, my interpretation of his statement is probably way off. I saw his statement as every team should have similar schedules. Which I guess everyone here understood. But, in his defense, this is just his second year at Indiana, and couldn’t (and I stress “couldn’t) some of these cupcake games have been scheduled years before he arrived at Indiana? He has probably heard the criticisms of his schedule (Probably heard it a lot last year), A schedule which, again, he may not have had anything to do with, especially last year’s, and maybe he is actually advocating for eliminating these cupcakes and kind of standardizing the schedules of all the teams. It could mean a cupcake, some mid-level teams like Toledo, and then more challenging teams combined. Oh, I didn’t read or listen to his whole talk, just responding to what was posted here. But again, I probably misinterpreted it.
this argument would hold more weight if he hadn’t just cancelled the games against Virgina and replaced it with the college football juggernaut known as Kinnesaw State.
 
#299      
To show you how times have changed, when I was in high school in the late 70's I worked as a bag boy at a grocery store and had to wear a tie at work
I worked as a "bag boy" for 2 years at Jewel in the late 70's and we had to wear black/brown pants (as long as not jeans) , white collared shirt and tie, and a gold vest (that they provided)

I worked as an Usher at Assembly Hall from 1980-1983 and pretty sure we had to wear a very similar get up there, including a gold vest.
 
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