Another Wagler stat I found… leaders in Illinois all time Box +/- (granted only seems to track from 2010-2011)
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Cool find…
This says A LOT about how good Malcolm Hill was tbh
Another Wagler stat I found… leaders in Illinois all time Box +/- (granted only seems to track from 2010-2011)
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I agree. It didn’t make sense to me to keep Wagler in so long. I would have liked to see Lee get a few more minutes too.I don't want this to come across as negative following a 43 point drubbing but Brad has got to figure out how to play Petrovic and in a game Boswell only played 22 minutes it seems criminal Petrovic played 2 minutes.
I don't really understand what Petrovic has done to deserve being in the doghouse and they simply won't beat good teams playing Davis and Humrichous at the same time.
Now that advanced analytics are used by the selection committee, scoring margin impacts seeding. There’s also something to be said for keeping your starters in a “everything’s going right” game to build confidence.I agree. It didn’t make sense to me to keep Wagler in so long. I would have liked to see Lee get a few more minutes too.
Kendrick Nunn was my favorite back then but Malcolm was just a great combo of skills, smarts and maximizing what you got. I still dream of that could have been with Kendrick, Malcolm and leron black together. but life gets in the way sometimes of a dreamCool find…
This says A LOT about how good Malcolm Hill was tbh
Bradley with the belt might be the best content we've seen so far this season.
I always had felt Kendrick was a better player, Malcolm was better in college and in the Big Ten but once Kendrick went to Oakland and they let him "be the guy" I think he realized how good of a shooter he really was. Was really glad he went on to play a couple of strong seasons in the NBA and obviously now is doing well in Europe.Kendrick Nunn was my favorite back then but Malcolm was just a great combo of skills, smarts and maximizing what you got. I still dream of that could have been with Kendrick, Malcolm and leron black together. but life gets in the way sometimes of a dream
I was going off what the commentators said during the closing minutes of the game. And the Illini's tough schedule will pay off come tournament time IMOActually Missouri is at 78th after Illinois game. Illinois is 6th in the country. Illinois is battle tested, and getting healthier.
We need the relax with Keaton and just let him play. What were KJ's numbers prior to January last year. He will start to be the focus of defensive game plans and he's going to have very physical, stuff competition every game. He has three full months to go. I think expectations should be tempered because, ultimately, if our season rests in his young, undeveloped and inexperienced shoulders.... it probably means we're not having a great year.Guys, here are Wagler’s stats compared to rest of the team:
- Tied for team lead in offensive rebounds, second in assists (40; one behind Boswell’s 41)
- Leads team in points, minutes, steals, 3pt%, 3ptA, FT%, FTA.
- Has a 2.5 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.
easy to forget how good Kasparas was before he got hurt. Around bragging rights he was being projected as a top 10 pick, and with good reason.KJ & Keaton stats through Missouri game
Interesting how similar this looks... outside of turnovers, Keaton with huge edge there, but KJ with plenty more assists
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I had forgotten. Sorry KJeasy to forget how good Kasparas was before he got hurt. Around bragging rights he was being projected as a top 10 pick, and with good reason.
Need a bigger sample size but looks like he is getting close to regaining his pre injury form.
Was the whole story regarding his injury ever told? Feel like I don’t know anything aside from it being a forearmI had forgotten. Sorry KJ
KJ assist to turnover ratio: 1.33We need the relax with Keaton and just let him play. What were KJ's numbers prior to January last year. He will start to be the focus of defensive game plans and he's going to have very physical, stuff competition every game. He has three full months to go. I think expectations should be tempered because, ultimately, if our season rests in his young, undeveloped and inexperienced shoulders.... it probably means we're not having a great year.
The development has been phenomenal so far. Let's hope it continues, while also managing what history tells us about true freshmen.
I’m not exactly sure… why? The NBA draft is SUPER age-dependent nowadays. With each added year, he could lose millions. If he’s projected second round, fine. But if he’s in the KJ/Riley range of ~ top 20, really makes no sense to come back.Keaton. Is a one of kind sleeper that Brad discovered. I hope Keaton would come back even if he has a great BT season. What a player.
He has been FANTASTIC! KJ was FANTASTIC!KJ assist to turnover ratio: 1.33
Keaton assist to turnover: 2.5 (which is elite territory)
Keaton’s also far and away the better defender.
IMHO - if he continues to not turn it over, he’ll be just fine. May have a few off nights, but he’s too talented offensively to no show every game (neither did KJ, but the turnovers really hurt his team).
If he piggybacks a great non conference season with a great Big Ten season.....he's 100% gone. The question will be is he physically ready. A great Big Ten season will prove that he is.Keaton. Is a one of kind sleeper that Brad discovered. I hope Keaton would come back even if he has a great BT season. What a player.
Keaton not a point guard?The ability of this staff to figure out ways to make players who weren't point guards, into primary offensive engines really should be appreciated. It's incredibly cool. Keaton is excellent, but what Brad and team have done with him and Domask is wild.
If we're being honest, there's been plentiful of "relaxing with Keaton" since we heard about him in the fallWe need the relax with Keaton and just let him play. What were KJ's numbers prior to January last year. He will start to be the focus of defensive game plans and he's going to have very physical, stuff competition every game. He has three full months to go. I think expectations should be tempered because, ultimately, if our season rests in his young, undeveloped and inexperienced shoulders.... it probably means we're not having a great year.
The development has been phenomenal so far. Let's hope it continues, while also managing what history tells us about true freshmen.
Taking care of the ball and defense are both vital differentiaters.I know everyone will look at the shooting, scoring, etc... to me literally the three most important things with him: 1) doesn’t turn the ball over 2) one of your best rebounders 3) one of your best defenders. As the PG, that ITSELF is enough value to keep you on the court every game, regardless of the game to game variance of shot making.
Where this differs from KJ a year ago (which I know everyone's skeptical of) is that two of the three aspects I mentioned were not nearly up to par with what we've seen from Wagler (turnovers and defense).
Now add in the scoring, shot making, shooting 43% from three.... now you've got one of the best players in the conference.