Coaching Carousel (Football)

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I thought McDermott got the Cleveland job?

It was reported that he is planning to take a year off of coaching. Given the options (Browns, Raiders, Cardinals), I definitely don't blame him - he'll be the top candidate next year and may have options like the Bengals, Bucs and Commanders if those teams don't turn it around next year.
 
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They already interviewed Anthony Lynn. Who completes the Rooney rule
I knew about Lynn but was under the impression Rooney Rule required at least two applicable candidates be interviewed. Nonetheless I now see the Bills also interviewed Anthony Weaver so that's two. I was wrong. But then why did Udinski blow off the Browns? That seems odd.
 
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the Browns supposedly make all hires go thru some long cumbersome process of writing essays & responding to hypothetical scenarios. It is unique to them out of all teams in the NFL.

it’s very possible some people simply get scared off in that process & say no thanks .I get it .
 
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the Browns supposedly make all hires go thru some long cumbersome process of writing essays & responding to hypothetical scenarios. It is unique to them out of all teams in the NFL.

it’s very possible some people simply get scared off in that process & say no thanks .I get it .
That seems like a sure way to limit your candidate pool to people who don't have better options for a head coaching gig.
 
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That seems like a sure way to limit your candidate pool to people who don't have better options for a head coaching gig.
Or to weed out candidates who are not willing to put in work.

Head coach in the NFL or even in college is not like normal jobs. This job calls for workaholics. If some essays and hypotheticals put you off the job, I'd be concerned about how willing you'd be to do what it takes on a day-to-day basis.
 
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That seems like a sure way to limit your candidate pool to people who don't have better options for a head coaching gig.
I swear there are no people in the business world who think they're smarter than everyone else than "search firm" types. I can't stand it.
 
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Or to weed out candidates who are not willing to put in work.

Head coach in the NFL or even in college is not like normal jobs. This job calls for workaholics. If some essays and hypotheticals put you off the job, I'd be concerned about how willing you'd be to do what it takes on a day-to-day basis.
If it's unique to them, meaning that no other team does this, then I'm not sure how it's lazy to opt out. Why good coaching candidate--who likely has multiple options--go do a bunch of make-work essays to coach the Browns as opposed to just interviewing with other teams? It's not like we're talking about the Patriots.
 
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the Browns supposedly make all hires go thru some long cumbersome process of writing essays & responding to hypothetical scenarios. It is unique to them out of all teams in the NFL.

it’s very possible some people simply get scared off in that process & say no thanks .I get it .
Judging by history, this doesn’t seem to work well. They may want to try something different.
 
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If it's unique to them, meaning that no other team does this, then I'm not sure how it's lazy to opt out. Why good coaching candidate--who likely has multiple options--go do a bunch of make-work essays to coach the Browns as opposed to just interviewing with other teams? It's not like we're talking about the Patriots.
How many opportunities exist in a given cycle to become an NFL head coach? How many is any given candidate up for? If that's your dream, it's highly suspect that you'd significantly limit your chances because of some extra homework.
 
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the Browns supposedly make all hires go thru some long cumbersome process of writing essays & responding to hypothetical scenarios. It is unique to them out of all teams in the NFL.

it’s very possible some people simply get scared off in that process & say no thanks .I get it .
Or perhaps highly qualified candidates look at it and go "what the hell is this sh*t?"

If it were the Chiefs or the Eagles doing this I might think they're onto something. But it's the Browns. The Cleveland Effing Browns are doing this. And no other teams.
 
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Or perhaps highly qualified candidates look at it and go "what the hell is this sh*t?"

If it were the Chiefs or the Eagles doing this I might think they're onto something. But it's the Browns. The Cleveland Effing Browns are doing this. And no other teams.
I mean, look at it this way. They only first implemented this process with their hire of Stefanski. Stefanski wasn't a home run hire by any means, but he is very clearly the most successful head coach hire that franchise has made since Marty Schottenheimer in 1984. Heck he's the 4th winningest coach in franchise history. So, yes, uber small sample size, but so far there's not really any reason to think this process has backfired, and I think you can make an argument it's been an improvement over what they have been doing for most of their history.
 
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Or perhaps highly qualified candidates look at it and go "what the hell is this sh*t?"

If it were the Chiefs or the Eagles doing this I might think they're onto something. But it's the Browns. The Cleveland Effing Browns are doing this. And no other teams.
ehhh there’s an extremely limited number of NFL HC positions in the grand scheme of things, which represent the pinnacle of football coaching. owners drop hundreds of millions of dollars per year. i think it’s fair to use whatever process you want as an owner to identify a leader for your franchise, and wouldn’t be surprised if in the future more teams use this type of approach, especially if it allows the browns to identify a successful coach that others may have overlooked
 
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I mean, look at it this way. They only first implemented this process with their hire of Stefanski. Stefanski wasn't a home run hire by any means, but he is very clearly the most successful head coach hire that franchise has made since Marty Schottenheimer in 1984. Heck he's the 4th winningest coach in franchise history. So, yes, uber small sample size, but so far there's not really any reason to think this process has backfired, and I think you can make an argument it's been an improvement over what they have been doing for most of their history.
Stefanski’s a better hire than Freddie Kitchens or Hue Jackson, neither of whom is in the NFL, but that’s a low bar.

The number of openings is small, but so is the number of qualified candidates. Until recently, almost all new head coaches were NFL coordinators. There are definitely coaches who are willing to take a gig with a terrible organization just because a head coach, but it’s pretty clear that not all coaches are that way. Ben Johnson wasn’t going to just take a job to be a HC.

Good luck to the Browns, but if an organization with a history of poor management is doing something no one else is, it’s ok to question it.
 
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Reporting that Jim Leonhard is the front runner to be DC for Brady
 
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On a scale of 1-10, how much does Wiscy wish they had kept Leonhard instead of hiring Fickell?
 
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