15 Conf tourn and 21 NCAAT games to our 10 & 9I've got 2 comments/questions
#1 - how was Houston able to play 13 games more than us from 2020 to now?
B. - at least we were ahead of Missouri in 2007 - 2020
15 Conf tourn and 21 NCAAT games to our 10 & 9I've got 2 comments/questions
#1 - how was Houston able to play 13 games more than us from 2020 to now?
B. - at least we were ahead of Missouri in 2007 - 2020
For #1- Better postseason performance, not just March Madness but also conference tournament.I've got 2 comments/questions
#1 - how was Houston able to play 13 games more than us from 2020 to now?
B. - at least we were ahead of Missouri in 2007 - 2020
This should be pinned imo.I know there’s a group of fans who don’t necassarily care that we used to stink and now we’re good. To them, it’s Elite Eight or bust. Who cares how far we’ve come? But for those of you who do care how far we’ve come, check this out.
I sorted Torvik by date.
First from, Nov 1, 2020 - today (Ayo/Kofi 1 seed season through this season).
Were ranked #9 in the country in that span. #2 in the B1G only behind Purdue who’s at #6. Ahead of programs like Kansas, Texas Tech, Florida, Michigan, Michigan St, Kentucky, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc.
Our record is 142-59 (70.6%) and that’s included never missing an NCAAT, All-Americans, first round draft picks, Big Ten Championships, Big Ten Tournament Championships, and a whole lot of good memories.
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Then I adjusted the dates. From Nov 1, 2007 - Nov 1, 2020.
In that span, we were ranked #48 in the country. Yes, barely a top 50 program over a 13 year period. Including the new B1G teams, we were #11 in the B1G. If you take those out, #9. These mid majors were ranked higher: VCU, Xavier, Wichita St, Butler, St Mary’s, Creighton, and Memphis.
Our record was 237-198 (545%) and we struggled to just make the NCAA tournament, much less get a good seed or make a run in it.
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We’ve come a long way my friends. Enjoy it.
Ooooh that's gonna piss Brad off. Good.
Like he is going to care what an old Wisconsin reporter says. In other news, water is wet.Ooooh that's gonna piss Brad off. Good.
He might not publicly but I'm sure a front page headline like that is embarrassing on some level. If it gives him some more ammo to motivate this team that's a good thing.Like he is going to care what an old Wisconsin reporter says. In other news, water is wet.
There are larger issues if these headlines are needed to light a fire. Losing three very winnable games with double digit leads should be enough.He might not publicly but I'm sure a front page headline like that is embarrassing on some level. If it gives him some more ammo to motivate this team that's a good thing.
I just posted a version of this in the Wisc Post-game thread, but it probably belongs here.I'll choose to believe this incredibly positive spin about where we are headed and what it means for March Madness. I think most of us probably felt like we were a well oiled machine after the USC win and into the beginning of the UCLA game, and many have noticed a somewhat obvious difference beginning with the collapse at UCLA. Here is how I'll attempt to spin that into a reason for optimism.
1) UCLA might be projected to be a #7 or #8 seed, but they certainly seem to be playing like something closer to a #4 or #5 seed. They did have one slipup at Minnesota, but they have otherwise won 6 of their last 7, including 3 wins vs. top 10 teams. Losing to them in OT by one point could be closer to going down in the Elite Eight to a hot #4 seed (that knocked off a #1) than it is to losing to a #6 or #7 seed in the Second Round, especially considering it was on the road.
2) Michigan needs no explanation. They're a National Title contender, period, but especially how they played us in Champaign. That is like losing handily to a #1 seed in the Elite Eight, and everyone here should be happy with an Elite Eight.
3) Oregon is bad, but we did what we should do to a bad team and obliterated them. The Ducks are #99 in KenPom, which is materially better than the type of #14 seed team we are likely to face in the First Round (currently a KenPom range of #113-186 for projected #14 seeds on Bracket Matrix). That is akin to coming out next Thursday/Friday and easily taking care of business and marching forward.
4) Maryland is also bad and we did struggle there, but it was a road game and we won. At this time of year, it's survive and advance and we did what we needed to late to avoid a loss. Sometimes, even good teams have to do that vs. bad teams in March Madness.
5) Similarly to UCLA except even more extreme, Wisconsin might be projected as a #5 or #6 seed, but from my POV they are playing at the level of a #2 seed (although admittedly somewhat inconsistent). They just took Michigan to the wire after a draining OT game vs. us, and they look every bit the part of a team who can take down most anyone if their guards bring it. Any #3 seed who wound up with Wisconsin as a #6 would consider themselves to have been screwed over pretty hard by the Committee, IMO. I think yesterday's loss was closer to choking away a lead in OT in the Sweet Sixteen than it was to choking away our chance to get out of the First Weekend.
With all that in mind, you can make the case that we OBVIOUSLY have issues to fix with the defense and sustaining focus/effort all game, but perhaps these issues are being conflated with catching a few teams at the wrong time and inaccurately comparing some of these losses to what could be a Second Round loss rather than a Sweet Sixteen loss ... and while we all want a Final Four, those are obviously very, very different for a #3 seed. I'm cautiously optimistic that the focus in practice this week will be on cultivating a sense of urgency and intensity and hammering home that these guys are only ever guaranteed one more game wearing an Illini uniform together ... it's survive and advance. Let's start another winning streak, preferably six games!!
There’s zero chance. He would give up a year of eligibility I assume. And trying to integrate a new player during one and done type of tournament seems very unwise.Any chance Ty Rodgers plays in the tournament? Would be awesome and would help give us some extra bite on defense and rebounding. Also a player that can get inside and score at will.
No.Any chance Ty Rodgers plays in the tournament? Would be awesome and would help give us some extra bite on defense and rebounding. Also a player that can get inside and score at will.
Didn't know the Sun-Times was still around. Aren't they the folks always sending out emails begging for donations?Like he is going to care what an old Wisconsin reporter says. In other news, water is wet.
My prized possession from this season is Mirk and Coach O's autographs on my Mirk.jersey at the Nebraska game. Two very high IQ guys. I can't imagine what Mirk 2.0 could look like next year.![]()
Mirk story. Hope the link works. Tribune can be greedy.
This team has really likable players and coaches. Just really good people. And even though it feels like we're limping in to the NCAA's, we're still a top 10-15 team in the nation. And we've got Keaton Wagler. I am so totally gonna root so hard for them to make every shot, throw every extra pass, collect every rebound, chase down every loose ball, and win every game!
Why would he burn an entire year of eligibility to play a couple of games with a group he has never been in an actual game with?Any chance Ty Rodgers plays in the tournament? Would be awesome and would help give us some extra bite on defense and rebounding. Also a player that can get inside and score at will.