From what I’ve read on here many times the discussion is Brad’s agent shopping his name out there. Could be both, but there is a difference.
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Just a reminder that I think literally everyone here would prefer a Brad Underwood that just fixes a few things vs. starting over, and those “no longer supporting Underwood” simply lack faith he’ll fix them.
It’s okay to point out some frustrating aspects of Underwood’s coaching … he’s not perfect, as nobody is.
It’s okay to point out some frustrating aspects of Underwood’s coaching … he’s not perfect, as nobody is.
I think most everyone on here would love for the team to advance in the tournament. What many on here are not satisfied with is using the Cub motto almost every year “wait until next year”.
Like Cub fans.
The real distinction to me seems to be more that there's a collection of people who truly believe there is a hard cap ceiling to a program/coach and we have a literal zero percent chance to advance in the tournament, and then other people who aren't that worried about it because they know there isn't some pre-ordained fraternity of programs or coaches who are only allowed to advance to a specific round
Yep. How many times this season have we heard "this next game will tell us all we need to know about this year's team?" The question has been answered over and over during the last month unfortunately. A lot of people don't want to accept the answer.
This came up yesterday, and candidly, i have no idea how this is actually a thing .
A few recent P4 openings and who they hired:
Ohio State: Jake Diebler
Washington: Danny Sprinkle
NC State: Will Wade
Florida State: Luke Loucks
Lville: Pat Kelsey
Iowa: Ben Mccollum
Minnesota: Nike Medved
Kstate: Casey Alexander
Texas: Sean Miller
Indiana: First Mike Woodson, now Darren DeVries
If you are under the opinion, that if all things were equal, these schools would all chose the current coaches over Brad Underwood. There's just very different worlds people live in.
The "how come brads name doesn't come up at other p4 openings" as some gotcha is nuts.
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This is such a baffling take that I no longer believe you are a real person here to discuss Illinois basketball in good faith.
Absolutely Andrej needs to start. We played Ben and Jake 51 minutes and they combined for 6 points and 6 rebounds
I would take Oats in a heartbeat
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And we wouldn’t get either if we canned Brad . . . it’s a nice wish list, but 0% probability
ehhh. Sports dont work like that man, and you know that.
If you truly already knew the answer, then you wouldn't even bother watching next week. Unless you have some odd desire around watching something to purposely be disappointed.
This team hasn't played their best recently. There's real concerns on defense and health - probably too much to overcome. they do not look to be in the tier of the 1 seeds. But i think theyve shown enough throughout the season where i don't think anyone should be shamed into saying it's not even worth watching because we all know the answer.
I think we mostly agree. We seem to be saying the same thing. Just a matter of semantics and level of disappointment is all. Maybe it is perspective. I have no idea how long you have been a fan (and I'm in no way minimizing your fanship at all), and maybe it is the fact that I've watched this movie over and over and over for 50 years with only 1989 and 2005 to really show for it. Yes, there are always exciting games season to season. Would just be super nice to be ultimately rewarded for over 50 years of loyalty at some point.
Not to go all Wendy Rhoades here. But maybe give yourself a little grace. If you don't think there's been one ounce of reward or enjoyment since 2005, im very worried about your physche
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I don’t always agree with your posts brother, but we’re together in this.
Everyone's threshold for disappointment varies, but if you're only satisfied with Final Fours then I suppose you'd be generally unhappy no matter who you root for
When there are fewer days ahead of you than behind, and the days behind have precious few final fours, hoping for a few more final fours, and perhaps an NC, before departing this good earth is a natural, and I will say healthy, inclination.
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If you bothered to consider what I wrote rather than reflexively criticize my comment, you may have picked up that I am disappointed that we have yet to win one Natl Championship in over 50 years. We are widely considered one of what, maybe a dozen, of the best programs in the country without winning a single title.
That, my friend, gets old year after year after year. When we win a single title I promise to all of the glass - half - fulls to NEVER try to constructively criticize our program again. Until then......
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This is where I'm at (sadly). My risk tolerance is higher because I want a NC before I leave this mortal coil.
I agree with this 100%
I don't know why you're being abrasive here, since you're disappointment stems from failure to win a national championship instead of a final four, I'll go ahead and reword my statement in that case:
"Everyone's threshold for disappointment varies, but if you're only satisfied with a National Championship then I suppose you'd be generally unhappy no matter who you root for"
Those posters to “consider what you wrote”, that will be for both you and me another 50 years of disappointment.
Not trying to be abrasive, but any critical statement in here the last month has been met with condescending responses. Not just talking to you, but that is a fact.
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