Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Could be a money decision. Missouri has big time money. Probably 50-70% more than we do.
What is sad is that you might be underestimating that figure.

Sam Walton is a Mizzou alum, Kroenke and Laurie lived in Columbia for years until they fled to Texas for tax reasons.

Remember the Mizzou Arena was going to be Paige Arena (after Laurie's daughter, who went to USC). Huge donation from Laurie to build it.

Mizzou will always be at the very top of SEC money if needed. But if you listened to KTVI2 in St Louis last November, the locals are becoming upset that Drinkwitz with all that money and talent never upsets anybody.
 
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What is sad is that you might be underestimating that figure.

Sam Walton is a Mizzou alum, Kroenke and Laurie lived in Columbia for years until they fled to Texas for tax reasons.

Remember the Mizzou Arena was going to be Paige Arena (after Laurie's daughter, who went to USC). Huge donation in. But if you listened to KTVI2 in St Louis last November, the locals are becoming upset that Drinkwitz with all that money and talent never upsets anybody.
I laugh everytime someone says the billionaires left for tax reasons
 
#257      
you better have huge money if you're gonna pay your freshmen to sit for a year or two.
Not understanding. There are 95 roster spots - and most teams are gravitating to $15mm of player money with the exception of about 16 schools (which I listed). Which schools are paying "huge money" to freshman to get them to sit a year or two and who are the freshmen?
 
#261      
jimmy stewart babe GIF
Jimmy Stewart???
 
#266      
Very curious to see how much 10 personnel gets ran on offense in 2026. They will have several receivers with proven college experience and a couple of young guys that they like.

With how much 11 and 12 everyone is running in college now, going back to 10 and a true 4 or even 5 wide look would give something different to prepare for.

It’s a factor in what they are doing for the 3-3-5, have to think same conversation being had for offense.
 
#267      
Very curious to see how much 10 personnel gets ran on offense in 2026. They will have several receivers with proven college experience and a couple of young guys that they like.

With how much 11 and 12 everyone is running in college now, going back to 10 and a true 4 or even 5 wide look would give something different to prepare for.

It’s a factor in what they are doing for the 3-3-5, have to think same conversation being had for offense.
Everything will operate the same on offense with a lil more motion from Kaden from the h-back position, and the defense will wreck havoc underneath a new scheme... All is well!!
 
#269      
Very curious to see how much 10 personnel gets ran on offense in 2026. They will have several receivers with proven college experience and a couple of young guys that they like.

With how much 11 and 12 everyone is running in college now, going back to 10 and a true 4 or even 5 wide look would give something different to prepare for.

It’s a factor in what they are doing for the 3-3-5, have to think same conversation being had for offense.

With how we want to run and Faegin moving out to te I would expect the offense to be the same as last year. We like to lean on the te’s in the running game. Also let’s hope Faegin is a factor in the passing game
 
#270      
If I was advising a top HS recruit…

Would tell them to go to a program that’s 20-30 in the overall picture (Iowa, ILL, Wash, Vandy, Utah, Houston, GA Tech) where you can play right away, can pay you 250-400 per year right away, and then after year 2 you can hit the portal and get the big payday then as you have shown you can play.

Run a big risk ending up at top 10 program right away, maybe getting 500 year 1 and not getting a shot to play, and getting pushed out after year 2. With no playing time to show for it.

Doesn’t seem like most good power 4 programs want guys that have been in college for 2 years and haven’t played.

Years 3-5 in that scenario don’t seem very fun.
 
#272      
If I was advising a top HS recruit…

Would tell them to go to a program that’s 20-30 in the overall picture (Iowa, ILL, Wash, Vandy, Utah, Houston, GA Tech) where you can play right away, can pay you 250-400 per year right away, and then after year 2 you can hit the portal and get the big payday then as you have shown you can play.

Run a big risk ending up at top 10 program right away, maybe getting 500 year 1 and not getting a shot to play, and getting pushed out after year 2. With no playing time to show for it.

Doesn’t seem like most good power 4 programs want guys that have been in college for 2 years and haven’t played.

Years 3-5 in that scenario don’t seem very fun.
I need to understand your numbers -

This board is terrific - the quality of actual recruit info is fantastic.

However, no one appears to answer or provide a single answer to the questions I write about the player comp / coach comp issue. I actually keep a database.
The NIL/Rev share/Collective player comp numbers thrown out, don't come close to any of the info I have.

So here is all the publicly available information for the 7 schools referenced above - summarized by AI:

Using the On3 NIL proxy + cross-referenced data (transfer portal budgets, roster cost estimates from nil-ncaa.com averaging ~$26M for strong programs, player surveys, and collective strength reports), here is the approximate national tier/rank range for these 7 schools:


  1. Vanderbilt (~25–40 nationally)Highest among the group thanks to the standout $98K avg (comparable to Notre Dame levels).
  2. Houston (~35–50 nationally)Strong $76K avg gives it a solid edge.
  3. Utah (~35–55 nationally)$71K avg keeps it competitive in the Big 12/Power mix.
  4. Washington (~30–50 nationally)$63K avg + Big Ten market/appeal.
  5. Iowa (~40–60 nationally)$47K avg is moderate, but player surveys (e.g., Athletes.org) often rank Iowa top 10 nationally for perceived NIL support and retention.
  6. Illinois (~70–90 nationally)$22K avg pulls it lower despite the Big Ten revenue floor.
To my knowledge and based all of our databases, there aren't any schools offering $250k to Freshman to redshirt. Can you provide your data or your data source.

Sorry, I feel like a broken record. But the high quality info on potential recruits doesn't match the supposition as to how and how much players are compensated. Hence, the official and unofficial visit info is unbelievably helpful. But matched against the wrong comp info its less meaningful.

Would appreciate an answer.
 
#273      
I need to understand your numbers -

This board is terrific - the quality of actual recruit info is fantastic.

However, no one appears to answer or provide a single answer to the questions I write about the player comp / coach comp issue. I actually keep a database.
The NIL/Rev share/Collective player comp numbers thrown out, don't come close to any of the info I have.

So here is all the publicly available information for the 7 schools referenced above - summarized by AI:

Using the On3 NIL proxy + cross-referenced data (transfer portal budgets, roster cost estimates from nil-ncaa.com averaging ~$26M for strong programs, player surveys, and collective strength reports), here is the approximate national tier/rank range for these 7 schools:


  1. Vanderbilt (~25–40 nationally)Highest among the group thanks to the standout $98K avg (comparable to Notre Dame levels).
  2. Houston (~35–50 nationally)Strong $76K avg gives it a solid edge.
  3. Utah (~35–55 nationally)$71K avg keeps it competitive in the Big 12/Power mix.
  4. Washington (~30–50 nationally)$63K avg + Big Ten market/appeal.
  5. Iowa (~40–60 nationally)$47K avg is moderate, but player surveys (e.g., Athletes.org) often rank Iowa top 10 nationally for perceived NIL support and retention.
  6. Illinois (~70–90 nationally)$22K avg pulls it lower despite the Big Ten revenue floor.
To my knowledge and based all of our databases, there aren't any schools offering $250k to Freshman to redshirt. Can you provide your data or your data source.

Sorry, I feel like a broken record. But the high quality info on potential recruits doesn't match the supposition as to how and how much players are compensated. Hence, the official and unofficial visit info is unbelievably helpful. But matched against the wrong comp info its less meaningful.

Would appreciate an answer.

In his scenario we would be paying Wagner to come in and start right away.
 
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