Pregame: Illinois vs Houston, Thursday, March 26th, 9:05pm CT, TBS

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2 hours compared to 2 miles? Absolutely.

The largest concentration of Illinois alumni is, I assume, Chicago. Rosemont could not have been more of a home court for Illinois if it were sitting next to the SFC, no?
 
#253      
i have only ever attended 4 Illinois games in person so far in my life - We won each time

2010 when i was a student, against #5 Michigan State
2022 at MSG against #2 Texas
2023 at MSG against #11 Florida Atlantic
Yesterday in Greenville against VCU

Currently waiting for my flight back to NYC at the airport, I am looking at Google flights and Ticketmaster…seriously considering booking the trip to Houston.
just booked it. L.F.G
 
#254      
2 hours compared to 2 miles? Absolutely.
I'll keep repeating this: this is not a home game for Houston. I can find studies to support or reject the idea that proximity or familiarity of a neutral site provide an advantage, but the line (2.5) clearly shows that sports books don't think it amounts to much, otherwise Houston would be favored by more.

As was mentioned, 2.5pts does not amount to 33% chance- the moneyline odds on this game give us a ~42% chance to win.
 
#255      
A spread of 2.5 pts does not equal 33% chance of winning.

Someone might be able to make that math for us.

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#257      
I'll keep repeating this: this is not a home game for Houston. I can find studies to support or reject the idea that proximity or familiarity of a neutral site provide an advantage, but the line (2.5) clearly shows that sports books don't think it amounts to much, otherwise Houston would be favored by more.

As was mentioned, 2.5pts does not amount to 33% chance- the moneyline odds on this game give us a ~42% chance to win.
I've always felt home field/court advantage is more about your routine than it is actual location or fan support. How you get to the arena, going to your locker, access to practice facilities, knowing where the training room is, etc. Any deviation from that can put you in a road game mindset. I imagine in a tournament situation that Houston will probably even stay in a team hotel too for team meals and to enforce curfew. So even getting to sleep in your own bed wouldn't apply.
 
#259      
Playing a favored team later in the tournament. You mention probably the one example where we haven't come up short.

I will start with the example of the 1984 game as a #2 against #1 Kentucky on their floor. While that situation is no longer allowed the committee saw fit to set Houston up with a Sweet 16 game 4 miles from their campus. Seems like an advantage.

Then there are the following examples:

1985 as a #3, lost to #2 Ga Tech 53-61
1993 as a #6, lost to #3 Vandy 68-85
2002 as a #4, lost to #1 Kansas 69-73
2004 as a #4, lost to #1 Duke 62-72
2024 as a #3, lost to #1 Uconn 52-77
2025 as a #6 lost to #3 Kentucky 75-84

Those types of games are what I'm referring to.
2004 we were #5 seed after defeating the higher seeded and favored Cincinnati.
 
#260      
I've always felt home field/court advantage is more about your routine than it is actual location or fan support. How you get to the arena, going to your locker, access to practice facilities, knowing where the training room is, etc. Any deviation from that can put you in a road game mindset. I imagine in a tournament situation that Houston will probably even stay in a team hotel too for team meals and to enforce curfew. So even getting to sleep in your own bed wouldn't apply.
Totally, and in terms of fan support, there are 4 teams' fanbases in attendance. And ours - who travel well in any case - will certainly be well repped.
 
#262      
I understand the concerns, but you don't start Andrej against Houston. He is way to loose with the ball and Jake doesn't turn the ball over. You want to start the game with Jake and let Andrej see what's working from the bench. Houston also doesn't defend the 3 very well. Jake could feast early.
We're going to need both Jake and Andrej in this one. That said, I do agree that offensively Andrej will probably struggle in this one. Houston sort of dares you to try taking it iso against them as they have a swarming physical defense. Generally, it doesn't end well for teams and players who try to do this unless the person driving can make quick decisions to pass out and find the open man, something that Andrej has been reluctant to do for the most part. That said, Andrej does have the ability to collapse the defense and Houston's scouting will clearly say swarm him and don't worry about leaving open shooters because he ain't passing, so if he were to pass out, I would expect us to get a number of wide open threes in rhythm until Houston adjusts. Odds of this happening though is probably small. So where Andrej can truly make a difference is on the defensive end and boards. When he's active his length allows him to block and challenge opponents taking midrange jumpers from the trailing position, something that is fairly unique for us and does help counter Houston's midrange jumpers.

Jake is also going to be extremely necessary as to win this one, we're going to need a good shooting night from 3 and Jake can fill it up with the best of them. He also has put together some good offensive rebounding and defensive efforts, especially when it comes to going after 50/50balls.

Needless to say, whoever is on the court or starting, we're going to need a good game out of to win this one. Gotta just go out there and play our hearts out- have to be plus on the boards, have to win our fair share of 50/50 balls, and gotta make shots.
 
#264      
WOW!!!!!!!!

I mean, awesome to see the 1 seed in our region lose early. But man, I’ll hate to see either Iowa or Nebraska make it farther than us if we lose to Houston.
 
#269      
I’m not sure what I would hate more. Losing this game knowing we had Iowa or Nebraska to go to the final four… Or losing to Iowa or Nebraska with the chance at a final four…
 
#275      
I'll keep repeating this: this is not a home game for Houston. I can find studies to support or reject the idea that proximity or familiarity of a neutral site provide an advantage, but the line (2.5) clearly shows that sports books don't think it amounts to much, otherwise Houston would be favored by more.

As was mentioned, 2.5pts does not amount to 33% chance- the moneyline odds on this game give us a ~42% chance to win.

No, it's not a home game for Houston since it's not being played in the Fertitta Center, but if you think there would be the same number of Houston fans at the Toyota Center as there would be if the game were being played in Charlotte, NC, you'd be wrong. Houston will definitely have a crowd advantage. Having said that, it shouldn't be any tougher to play there than it would be to play an away game in East Lansing or at the Mackey Center, other than the stakes. They have the blueprint to win in a hostile environment.
 
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