Illini Basketball 2026-2027

#627      
Depth isn’t about removing three players. It’s about how many guys can realistically play in Big Ten games.
Real depth 2024 - Dain Dainja, Luke Goode, Justin Harmon
Real depth 2025 Morez Johson, Will Riley .DGL
Real depth - 2026 Ben Humrichous, Big Z, Jake Z

Real depth 2027 - Big Z Jake, Lukas (PG?), Lincoln (def?)

Very rare you go past 8
 
#628      
To me, depth is not about 'who are your 9th and 10th players who will play 4 minutes in a lopsided game?' but rather about how well you could withstand player absences.

Big Z is as good of a backup center as there is in the nation, likely is the best.

Jake Davis is as solid of a replacement on the wing as anyone in the country as well.

If a ballhandler goes down, you have the same issue most everyone else has. How good are Michigan St without Fears or USC without Rice? Just for example...

If 3-4 guys go down, again you have the same issue most everyone else has as that's too much to overcome anyhow as you don't have another star or two sitting at the end of the bench.

Deep team, but our 9/10th guys are top 100 while other team's are ranked a bit higher than that, which is really just a big old meh-who-cares-mc-nothing-burger.
Where exactly are you seeing our "9th/10th guys" ranked top 100?

247composite:

Zavier Zens is 146
Lincoln Williams is 202
Ethan Brown is 211
Landon Davis is 244

That's only 1 in the top 200 (at 146).
 
#629      
Real depth 2024 - Dain Dainja, Luke Goode, Justin Harmon
Real depth 2025 Morez Johson, Will Riley .DGL
Real depth - 2026 Ben Humrichous, Big Z, Jake Z

Real depth 2027 - Big Z Jake, Lukas (PG?), Lincoln (def?)

Very rare you go past 8
In 2025, Jake Davis played 9.5 minutes per game. In 2024, DGL played 7.1 minutes per game.

Both did it over the course of playing at least 75% of team games.

It's generally ideal to have a guy behind the top 8, who can absorb those low-maintenance minutes.
 
#630      
Just getting caught up here, but we're sweating the depth of a team that's starting Bonke at the 5?

Temu Big Z in their starting lineup and we think they're deeper than us? Am I getting that right? I mean I swear I searched for "Zvonomir Ivisic" on AliExpress and Bonke popped up for $17.62 (with a free gift ratchet set). Pretty sure that's where Izzo found him.

Its just one guy posting a lot and everyone else is arguing with him lol
 
#631      
Where exactly are you seeing our "9th/10th guys" ranked top 100?

247composite:

Zavier Zens is 146
Lincoln Williams is 202
Ethan Brown is 211
Landon Davis is 244

That's only 1 in the top 200 (at 146).
Big drop after Lucas. Hopefully somebody emerges.

#9thMan

bloomfield hills wtf GIF
 
#635      
Where exactly are you seeing our "9th/10th guys" ranked top 100?

247composite:

Zavier Zens is 146
Lincoln Williams is 202
Ethan Brown is 211
Landon Davis is 244

That's only 1 in the top 200 (at 146).

I may have parroted someone else, but I wasn’t considering Landon Davis at all given what we know about these four players. Zens is a 4 star.

Why do we have to have nitpick fights over guys who are unlikely to see a box score outside of major injury or 30 point blowout?

Constant negativity about things that don’t even budge the needle is just annoying (which is actually my theory on why it exists on a fan forum of a top 3 ranked team: people like to be annoying and stir pots or whatever).
 
#643      
Lincoln Williams has All Big potential. Not this year….but by his junior season?
 
#650      
Interesting debate on the Sleepers podcast. Who’s been the best team in the B1G over the past 5-6 years and who will be the most dominate team in the B1G going forward?

To start, here’s the results of each of the 4 best teams in the B1G over the last 6 years:

TeamBig Ten winsConference championshipsNCAA appearancesElite Eights or betterBest finish
Purdue85462Runner-up
Illinois83362Final Four
Michigan72342Champion
MSU73161Elite Eight

That’s likely the order I’d place them in. To me, Purdue takes the crown. Most wins, most conference championships, and a national championship game appearance.

I put Illinois 2nd. 11 more B1G wins than Michigan and 2 additional NCAAT appearances, but Michigan does have the only Natty of any B1G team in the past 25 years. That might be worth a few extra regular season wins. Would be tough to argue with someone placing them at the top or 2nd.

MSU is clearly 4th though. 10 less regular season wins than us, just 1 conference championship, and never made it past the E8.

Now, what’s the B1G going to look like going forward?

As of this moment, I’d rank them:

1. Illinois
2. Purdue
3. Michigan St
4. Michigan

Michigan sliding into last is easy. They just lost a generational coach. They’ve got a mediocre coach on a 2 year deal. The wrong hire could set them back another 3-5 years.

I put us on top. I’m obviously bias, but the reason why is exactly what Trotter said on the Werner podcast this week:

Brad can recruit high school, the transfer portal, and the Euro market, giving us flexibility in roster building. Brad’s got a F4 under his belt, guys making the league, a system NBA prospects want to play for, and staff continuity.

If I were to pick the team with the most wins in the B1G over the next 6 years, I’d pick Illinois.

Now, if only we can solve this 9th man issue, then we’d really be onto something.
 
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