Texas Tech 84, Illinois 78 Postgame

#152      
Without Coleman we were 5 of 28 from 3. Gotta hit FTs and we screwed up not adding a power 4 that can rebound after Mirk! Guys that are 215 can't rebound vs Stillwell and guys like MSU has. Im over people thinking skinny guys can deal with a true power 4. If you dont have one vs good teams and dont shoot we'll your in trouble. We were out rebounded 43 to 32 and Stillwell had 13 in 26 minutes. Gotta make shots but we shouldve added a true power 4 in case Mirk got hurt and those 30 plus minutes needed someone to rebound! I was upset about taking that risk and man oh man was it obvious tonight.
Agreed. Always thought this was a glaring issue in Brad's teams. Also turnovers aka bad passing and dribbling. Sure we got guys who can take it off the bounce but they definitely like to pick up their dribble above the 3pt line as well. Brown seemed like the only guy who figured out how to cut as well in the offense.
 
#154      
Lincoln should be on the opposing teams best player every game. Guy fights and fights through screens.....which is what finally limited Cruz Davis from cooking the defender of the screen guy....whether it was to the hoop or from deep

He should have been out there a lot more than 24 min tonight. The entire momentum of tonight's game shifted because of him

Any of Vaaks/Brown could have sacrificed minutes. Could say Zens but I thought he was less of a liability than Brown (who repeatedly was getting cooked on D). Brown has nice future (obviously very good catch and shoot guy that'll thrive in this O) but he's gonna have to improve a ton defensively
Lincoln looks like much taller Trent Frazier, including matching headband.
 
#155      
Given that we lost based above all else on unpreparedness to play amid that kind of intensity, I think there's definitely a question about it.

Mirk's a great player, but he was also so well suited to our slowball approach.

There is more of an identity crisis here than anybody could have expected when we got our Balkan guys back.

Oh no. We’re already in crisis mode
 
#158      
Guessing Brad is playing the long game and preparing for march and doesn't want to ride top guys too much already with the injuries.

That said march is a lot easier when you dont lose all your premium non conference games and knock yourself out of a 1 seed.
Brad just said on presser on radio guys need to tuffin up and stop getting hurt...lol
 
#160      
On the bright side…I still think this team is really good, and could potentially be truly great by March. Bad experiences teach faster than good ones.
 
#161      
Lincoln should be on the opposing teams best player every game. Guy fights and fights through screens.....which is what finally limited Cruz Davis from cooking the defender of the screen guy....whether it was to the hoop or from deep

Agree. I’m glad Underwood is playing him. I was worried after what happened with Ty Rodgers that Brad wouldn’t play guys with that skillset anymore but the fact he is, even with a very late after thought signee is encouraging. You need dogs on the court. LW is a great story to go from nowhere to starting in a few months. The team needs what he brings
 
#164      
I am perplexed by Big Z. He actually looks more frail this year. Gets pushed around way too easy. I figured Fletch would have helped him develop physically but he seems to be going the wrong way with that.
It's a mentality, not a physicality issue. Latulip talks about this alot- guys that are confident, play tougher and more athletic.. Guys that have no confidence look weaker and less athletic.. This is Big Z to a T
 
#166      
Regarding rebounding. Didn't we have 4 hit offense and defensive boards last year? Does our new philosophy not Allow us do this? Rebounding edge concerning, but we are missing Mirk. Vaaks has to be consistent all season. Pretty please.
 
#167      
Glad out guys didn't quit, and made this a tossup near the end.
Our comeback was impressive, but prolly in good part by DGL being out.
So, that's gotta be taken account of adjusting our O and D going forward.
Im a homer, of course, but IMO the refs called some pretty ticky tack stuff on us,
and did not do likewise on TT.
 
#168      
YES!!!!!!!!!!! Dan, pin this!

You find your starting 5, establish three critical rotational pieces and only go deeper only if ABSOLUTELY necessary (foul trouble, injury, etc).

I suspect that the minutes gap will start to widen after Brad really sees what he has. Some guys that looked capable vs Penn, got humbled a bit tonight.
And you use your early season games before conference to determine who those 3 are going to be.

Bottom line, among all the whining, is this game was meaningless other than to serve that purpose...as well as to find out what needs to be done better.

Shooting free throws is certainly one of those things...and all could improve their technique which is guaranteed to improve their %, especially under pressure. But I have no idea if the staff has knowledgeable competence in that area. The product on the floor does not reflect that as technical errors are abundant.

Team defense is another, but I have faith that will improve, though it will not be fixed overnight.

The plus factor in tonight's loss was the introduction to big time road games played before a hostile crowd, something none of the frosh have ever seen, nor has Vaaks.

But the loss means very little in the grand scheme of things and it does serve an important purpose. The most important lesson learned I hope is that the Illini's dinner was stolen by what they may have thought were not big concerns. But all the little blunders added up to no dinner.

But kudos to these kids for turning the game around and almost getting a do over. Be proud of that and get back to work chasing your goals...and get better every day.
 
#169      
-ILL 8-19 FT, TT 23-26
-ILL 32 Rebounds, TT 43
-ILL 29% 3 PT %
-Stefan Vaaks

How did we only lose by 6?
2 pointers
we were 30-60 from the field and 10-34 from 3

Means we were 20-26 from two

They were 26-65 and 9/27

So they were 17 for 38.....they missed a LOT of layups and shots around the room trying to maneuver around and over our length
 
#170      
With a healthy Mirk playing we win this one going away, no question about it. As it is this loss will ultimately make us better down the road. Plenty to learn from tonight.
Ya, healthy Mirk and Jake and I think we win by double digits at least.
 
#171      
Penn game: Illinois turned it over on 21.8% of offensive possessions.

TTU game: Illinois turned it over on 21.6% of offensive possessions.

Last year's team only had a 13.1% turnover rate (8th best in the country).

Too many wasted possessions.

Yes.

But honestly, I think they could have survived the turnover rate, they were just all live.
 
#175      
Penn game: Illinois turned it over on 21.8% of offensive possessions.

TTU game: Illinois turned it over on 21.6% of offensive possessions.

Last year's team only had a 13.1% turnover rate (8th best in the country).

Too many wasted possessions.

Yep that’s why Wagler was special. We put the ball in his hands and knew we’d get a good possession. Kylan was a good secondary dribbler.

This group has QC, and that’s it. It’s a tough ask to ask our bigs, true freshman, iso players (Vaaks/Stojakovic) to move the ball and not cough it up.
 
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