Illini in the Pros (Basketball)

#127      
TSJ picked up 2 fouls in about a minute which sat him down. He has been playing quite a bit (21 minutes) but a lot of subs with a 40 point Timberwolves lead.
Yeah i wouldn't count his minutes out. He played quite a bit when ant was still starting.
 
#129      
Yeah i wouldn't count his minutes out. He played quite a bit when ant was still starting.
he played all 7 Oct games at ~21 min/game and averaged 12 pts. missed 3 games last week with hip contusion, has played in 2 games since.

my take is hes still easing back into playing time and dynamics have shifted a bit with Ant going down around when TSJ went out and other role players have stepped up in the meantime- Bones, Clark etc
 
#131      
Timberwolves absolutely hammering Dallas.

Ayo with another solid game. 12 pots, 5-10 FG, 2-4 3pt. A +23 which leads the team.

TSJ with only 6 minutes. It’s been sad to see his minutes go down, game by game. Hopefully he gets traded and can find his footing.
He’s also coming off a hip injury. He found his way last year. No reason to think he won’t do it this year.
 
#132      
By the way, Ayo has passed Luther Head and is now 5th all-time in 3pt buckets for Illini in the NBA. He'll almost certainly pass Eddie Johnson this season. Then it's a bit of a climb to the top 3 guys, who all made over 1,000 3s in their NBA careers (D-Will, Harper, Anderson), but at his current rate of production (and assuming a career that goes into at least his age 33 season) there's a decent chance Ayo ends up as the most prolific NBA 3pt shooter in to come out of Illinois (until Wagler takes the crown from him).
 
#133      
By the way, Ayo has passed Luther Head and is now 5th all-time in 3pt buckets for Illini in the NBA. He'll almost certainly pass Eddie Johnson this season. Then it's a bit of a climb to the top 3 guys, who all made over 1,000 3s in their NBA careers (D-Will, Harper, Anderson), but at his current rate of production (and assuming a career that goes into at least his age 33 season) there's a decent chance Ayo ends up as the most prolific NBA 3pt shooter in to come out of Illinois (until Wagler takes the crown from him).
t's just crazy how much he's defied odds. A very fair knock on Ayo coming into the league was his shooting ability and lack of explosiveness as an athlete. Fast forward a few years, and he's an excellent 3-point shooter with multiple highlights of him dunking on people. Makes no sense.
 
#134      
t's just crazy how much he's defied odds. A very fair knock on Ayo coming into the league was his shooting ability and lack of explosiveness as an athlete. Fast forward a few years, and he's an excellent 3-point shooter with multiple highlights of him dunking on people. Makes no sense.
Just a hooper. NBA has the best sports medicine/fitness people in the world. Hoping for a similar career arc for Keaton.
 
#135      
t's just crazy how much he's defied odds. A very fair knock on Ayo coming into the league was his shooting ability and lack of explosiveness as an athlete. Fast forward a few years, and he's an excellent 3-point shooter with multiple highlights of him dunking on people. Makes no sense.
Dunno if I would call either of those knocks fair actually. Ayo's jumper looked a little weird then and now but it has always gone in.

I think that quote from the TWolves coach that got posted earlier about Ayo being so instantly adaptable into so many different roles goes a long way to explaining how scouts screwed up so badly on him. Illinois asked him to be a hero ball volume scorer because that's what we needed, but then he got viewed one-dimensionally in that way, when he had so much else to his game and was going to be so functional as a swiss army knife at the next level.

Some of it is an unknowable defying of the odds as you say, but the industry really did get it wrong letting him slide to 38, that shouldn't have happened.

(Leave it to the Bulls to make nothing out of their good fortune)
 
#136      
t's just crazy how much he's defied odds. A very fair knock on Ayo coming into the league was his shooting ability and lack of explosiveness as an athlete. Fast forward a few years, and he's an excellent 3-point shooter with multiple highlights of him dunking on people. Makes no sense.
He looks WAY more athletic in the pros, than he did at Illinois.

Significantly more bouncy and explosive.

I’m not sure exactly what it is. It wasn’t immediate, but now, he’s got another level of speed and a legit threat to dunk on people. Perhaps just comes with getting older and more conditioning.
 
#138      
He looks WAY more athletic in the pros, than he did at Illinois.

Significantly more bouncy and explosive.

I’m not sure exactly what it is. It wasn’t immediate, but now, he’s got another level of speed and a legit threat to dunk on people. Perhaps just comes with getting older and more conditioning.
He was always fast, but seemed like he was a late bloomer. Very skinny and could barely dunk as a freshman, but built up his body and was easily dunking by Jr year and has continued to build up his body since then.

Although I agree it seems unusual to develop that much explosiveness in your early 20s. Usually you have those quick twitch fibers or you don’t.
 
#139      
t's just crazy how much he's defied odds. A very fair knock on Ayo coming into the league was his shooting ability and lack of explosiveness as an athlete. Fast forward a few years, and he's an excellent 3-point shooter with multiple highlights of him dunking on people. Makes no sense.
The guy works his @$$ off. Good things happen when you do that.
 
#143      
It's crazy to look at Keaton's game logs, and see how much better he's been at home, than on the road.

Literally all his bad games are on the road, and all his best games are at home.

He's shooting 20% from 3pt on the road, and 50% at home.
 
#144      
It's crazy to look at Keaton's game logs, and see how much better he's been at home, than on the road.

Literally all his bad games are on the road, and all his best games are at home.

He's shooting 20% from 3pt on the road, and 50% at home.
Maybe they’ll play a Pacers game in Mackey for him. Should be alright in there.
 
#146      
If they were smart they'd go get Will Riley and Sabonis if he's not getting along well with the Kings. Instant upgrades. I wanted them to keep Ayo and get Shannon but they wound up in Minnesota. Wilson is a start but it seems they're always in rebuilding mode. I'm just glad the Illini have now put guys in the pros (With more to come). Makes it much more watchable and able to follow with the Bulls in whatever direction they're going in.
Ayo would legitimately be a great fit for the current Bulls with Wilson and Essengue.

Might not be great but would be a really fun group.
 
#148      
It's crazy to look at Keaton's game logs, and see how much better he's been at home, than on the road.

Literally all his bad games are on the road, and all his best games are at home.

He's shooting 20% from 3pt on the road, and 50% at home.
Keaton will continue to get better, he's still 19 years old. He has to get stronger and not shoot 10% on 2's. Strength will solve this. I'm so proud of him, 2 or 3 years from now watch out.
 
#149      
Keaton will continue to get better, he's still 19 years old. He has to get stronger and not shoot 10% on 2's. Strength will solve this. I'm so proud of him, 2 or 3 years from now watch out.
Have to remind myself that sometimes. Kid is still practically "a kid" at 19....won't turn 20 till February.

Yeah he's doing just fine. By the end of the season in May, I bet Keaton will be a completely different player than he is now. Just in terms of efficiency and maturity.

He gonna be a good one!
 
#150      
It's crazy to look at Keaton's game logs, and see how much better he's been at home, than on the road.

Literally all his bad games are on the road, and all his best games are at home.

He's shooting 20% from 3pt on the road, and 50% at home.
I imagine thats not uncommon for a young nba rookie. Getting used to being a multimillionaire, hotel life on road, etc probably takes some time. Not that im recommending it but dude cant even hit the bar with his teammates after a road win.
 
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