2/21 Games

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altenberger22

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So I guess the two options for determining a team's place in the Big 10 standings are:

1. Winning %
2. Win/Loss differential (i.e. games back)

Should be a fantastic final two weeks of the regular season!
 
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nycillini

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BlueLeader said:
Funny thing is winning the rest of our games doesn't get us the title on its own, even if michigan loses today.
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What? If they lose today and we beat them I'm pretty confident we win the title ( even if we win out and they don't lose outside of that). The conference cannot justify nationally if they award Michigan the title even though we have the same number of losses and we beat them head to head
 
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nycillini

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To follow up, football was different because OSU was the clear cut best team. Not even close

Not the case here
 
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BlueLeader

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nycillini said:
What? If they lose today and we beat them I'm pretty confident we win the title ( even if we win out and they don't lose outside of that). The conference cannot justify nationally if they award Michigan the title even though we have the same number of losses and we beat them head to head
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Hey I agree but that's the facts they will have a better win % because they are ditching 3 games. 16-4 vs 14-3. Even if they are easier opponents, they would rather not play them than travel and have to make them up close together.
 
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Mr. Roberts

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BlueLeader said:
Hey I agree but that's the facts they will have a better win % because they are ditching 3 games. 16-4 vs 14-3. Even if they are easier opponents, they would rather not play them than travel and have to make them up close together.
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Um ... if we win out we are 17-3, not 16-4. We need to win out and for MI to drop 1 other game for the championship.
 
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altenberger22

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BlueLeader said:
Funny thing is winning the rest of our games doesn't get us the title on its own, even if michigan loses today.
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If Michigan loses today and we win out, we beat them by at at least 1-1/2 games. Of course, they could also lose even more games.

ILL 17-3
MICH 14-3
 
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DRS

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BlueLeader said:
Funny thing is winning the rest of our games doesn't get us the title on its own, even if michigan loses today.
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Just to be clear, and not trying to call out blueleader here, but this is in fact not true, correct? winning percentage has to break the tie, or head to head?
 
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Champaignheat said:
I think Ohio a state beats Michigan by at least 8 points.
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And with Mich loss to OSU, we would have a track to win out and ensure that we both have 3 losses and we have a higher winning percentage. After the Minny game, I believe we can win out.

This will be least stressful scenario for B10...most stressful is if Michigan win reg season B10 by less games and higher "percentage"
 
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illinitiger

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BlueLeader said:
Hey I agree but that's the facts they will have a better win % because they are ditching 3 games. 16-4 vs 14-3. Even if they are easier opponents, they would rather not play them than travel and have to make them up close together.
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Worst case for us is OSU and Illini beating Mich and both finish 16-4 and Mich 14-3 (no other losses) and our only loss in next 5 is OSU.

-Mich could win on .82 percentage vs .8 for 16/4
-OSU could win if #wins is factor ..they would be tied with us at 16-4 and win tie break since sweeping our 2 games.

I think our last 2 games may be for reg season championship
 
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Calvin

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Huge game today for the Bigten race. If Mich loses, I wonder if we'll pass them in the polls. Would only be their second loss, still well ahead of the teams behind them.
 
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Henson71

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illinitiger said:
This will be least stressful scenario for B10...most stressful is if Michigan win reg season B10 by less games and higher "percentage"
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I don’t think the B10 is stressed about anything- they clearly don’t care about a level playing field or the historical significance of which team “wins” the B10 - they care about appeasing UM and making it as easy as possible for them, that much is clear.

They make Nebraska play back to back games on the road, take away a home game from them to get their games in - for UM, no need to force anything, let’s give them three days off before games to make sure we’re not causing any “mental health”issues by forcing college kids play basketball every other day - what a joke these scheduling decisions are
 
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TCTORNADO

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Calvin said:
Huge game today for the Bigten race. If Mich loses, I wonder if we'll pass them in the polls. Would only be their second loss, still well ahead of the teams behind them.
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Vegas says Michigan -1.5
 
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RML

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B1G really ought to take a position now on how they are going to assess the final standings, given that it is pretty clear that Michigan will play 3 fewer games than anyone else. If the powers that be wait until the mess (arising from possible conflicting interpretations) arrives (or becomes more easily predictable, e.g., after today's game), then their ultimate decision is going to be tainted by conjecture of favoritism, or decision-making based on a goal of satisfying a subjective preference rather than on principles.
Anyone think that they would consider offering co-titles if "total wins" (or games over .500) and winning percentage provide different "winners"?.
 
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RML

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illinitiger said:
Worst case for us is OSU and Illini beating Mich and both finish 16-4 and Mich 14-3 (no other losses) and our only loss in next 5 is OSU.

-Mich could win on .82 percentage vs .8 for 16/4
-OSU could win if #wins is factor ..they would be tied with us at 16-4 and win tie break since sweeping our 2 games.

I think our last 2 games may be for reg season championship
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Should we all pull for the "tie" in today's game? I suppose its unlikely, :) but that never stops me from hoping. And maybe it would help us in the standings to give them each half a loss?
 
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illinitiger

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RML said:
B1G really ought to take a position now on how they are going to assess the final standings, given that it is pretty clear that Michigan will play 3 fewer games than anyone else. If the powers that be wait until the mess (arising from possible conflicting interpretations) arrives (or becomes more easily predictable, e.g., after today's game), then their ultimate decision is going to be tainted by conjecture of favoritism, or decision-making based on a goal of satisfying a subjective preference rather than on principles.
Anyone think that they would consider offering co-titles if "total wins" (or games over .500) and winning percentage provide different "winners"?.
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On co champions...anything is possible. I think illini nation (and other fandoms) would revolt if we win out with a 12 game winning streak and didn't get title based on a percentage factor (say Mich finishes 15-2). GO BUCS (for today only)
 
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TheFlyingIllini1317

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Crazy that after today's game we will still have to play 5 more and osu just has to play 3. Rooting for the Buckeyes today and then both teams lose out!
 
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IllinoisFan733

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Winning percentage isn’t important, I believe. It’s just difference in wins and losses. If we are +4 in wins and -3 in losses, then the title is for the Illini.
 
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aaron2108

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Calvin said:
Huge game today for the Bigten race. If Mich loses, I wonder if we'll pass them in the polls. Would only be their second loss, still well ahead of the teams behind them.
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I'd say no matter the outcome the polls are the same tomorrow.
 
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