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<blockquote data-quote="CubIllini" data-source="post: 1761517" data-attributes="member: 176495"><p>I think the biggest issues with Groce is what is outlined here. Putting his eggs in one basket. Holding out on Evans with the hopes of Brunson.. DJAX... Schneider..Cliff.. the list goes on and on. Good dude, but I honestly think he was always too invested in landing the big fish, that he lost his back up plan. What if he landed some of those top guys? maybe history is different. Either way, he was never able to land the big guys. His first three seasons at Illinois were not bad, in fact decent- you could argue he should have gotten one more shake at an NCAAT bid that third year:</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season" target="_blank">2012–13</a></td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team" target="_blank">Illinois</a></td><td>23–13</td><td>8–10</td><td>T–7th</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament" target="_blank">NCAA Division I Second Round</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season" target="_blank">2013–14</a></td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team" target="_blank">Illinois</a></td><td>20–15</td><td>7–11</td><td>T–8th</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_National_Invitation_Tournament" target="_blank">NIT Second Round</a></td></tr><tr><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season" target="_blank">2014–15</a></td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team" target="_blank">Illinois</a></td><td>19–14</td><td>9–9</td><td>T–7th</td><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_National_Invitation_Tournament" target="_blank">NIT First Round</a></td></tr></table><p></p><p>But after that.. it was all over. Good dude, just not cut out for high major ball.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CubIllini, post: 1761517, member: 176495"] I think the biggest issues with Groce is what is outlined here. Putting his eggs in one basket. Holding out on Evans with the hopes of Brunson.. DJAX... Schneider..Cliff.. the list goes on and on. Good dude, but I honestly think he was always too invested in landing the big fish, that he lost his back up plan. What if he landed some of those top guys? maybe history is different. Either way, he was never able to land the big guys. His first three seasons at Illinois were not bad, in fact decent- you could argue he should have gotten one more shake at an NCAAT bid that third year: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season']2012–13[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']Illinois[/URL][/TD] [TD]23–13[/TD] [TD]8–10[/TD] [TD]T–7th[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NCAA_Division_I_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament']NCAA Division I Second Round[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season']2013–14[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']Illinois[/URL][/TD] [TD]20–15[/TD] [TD]7–11[/TD] [TD]T–8th[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT Second Round[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_season']2014–15[/URL][/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']Illinois[/URL][/TD] [TD]19–14[/TD] [TD]9–9[/TD] [TD]T–7th[/TD] [TD][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT First Round[/URL][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] But after that.. it was all over. Good dude, just not cut out for high major ball. [/QUOTE]
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