Adam Miller transfers to LSU

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Is that an Illini mask? (Ace posted this on his IG story.)
 

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Joel Goodson

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Too small for an NBA 3 and D wing. Thinks he needs the ball in his hands and to show he can create.
And therein lies the problem. This is the source of most of the angst. Miller needs to morph into a Luther Head type. Are there ball handling opportunities here? Absolutely.
 
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I noticed that you're right as well. I was referring to the performance training facility Pro Trained Athletics but it appears the Hopkins and AM had sessions at both facilities today.
I hadn’t heard of this place, so I looked it up. Address is same as De La Salle. Do the coaches operate out of there? I used to hoop up the street waaaaaay back in the day.
 
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For me, all season long I had the feeling that Miller was holding his game back (for whatever reasons). There seem to be so many more gears there but he always seemed to slip his gear shift quickly into the corner 3 and little else. He seems like a fine race car that just ran around the track without ever putting the pedal down full. This is not a comment on his effort. The effort was there. It’s more about how he channeled his game in one direction without really cutting loose and showing what he could do. It will be fun to see what he can really do when he lets his game loose. I hope he finds his spot to shine.
 
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Counterpoint though, what is Miller most likely to get paid in the nba to do? Space the floor,
Hit 3’s, play defense. No one is going to draft him with the idea to put the ball in his hands and create. A wing who averages 12 ppg but is an elite 3 and D player has a much better shot at making the league than a high usage 18 ppg scorer who shoots 40% from the field.
(as others have said) it's hard to make it as just a 3 and D guy at his size. Still need to have some handle and dribble-drive ability, like DeAnthony Melton for instance (not great, but has enough to make him playable and allow for his best skill -- defense -- to shine). Miller should be studying the heck out of Jared Butler. Imitating him is his best path forward.
 
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For me, all season long I had the feeling that Miller was holding his game back (for whatever reasons). There seem to be so many more gears there but he always seemed to slip his gear shift quickly into the corner 3 and little else. He seems like a fine race car that just ran around the track without ever putting the pedal down full. This is not a comment on his effort. The effort was there. It’s more about how he channeled his game in one direction without really cutting loose and showing what he could do. It will be fun to see what he can really do when he lets his game loose. I hope he finds his spot to shine.
Not me. He may be a good kid, but when a player leaves our team I wish him nothing but bad luck. I took great pleasure in watching Mark Smith slide downwards this year. Same with Alan Griffin at the end of his season.
 
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And therein lies the problem. This is the source of most of the angst. Miller needs to morph into a Luther Head type. Are there ball handling opportunities here? Absolutely.
That would do it. Head came in as a slasher who could jump out of the gym then became a shooter. Miller seems to be a shooter first. I think finishing at the rim has been his weakness. He double pumps and is often blocked. Ayo, Feliz and Curbelo all could finish with different techniques. If he gets better at finishing then he'll be more likely to get the ball in his hands more often.
 
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Joel Goodson

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That would do it. Head came in as a slasher who could jump out of the gym then became a shooter. Miller seems to be a shooter first. I think finishing at the rim has been his weakness. He double pumps and is often blocked. Ayo, Feliz and Curbelo all could finish with different techniques. If he gets better at finishing then he'll be more likely to get the ball in his hands more often.
He's was multi-dimensional in HS. But high D1 is quite the surprise for many freshmen. Miller went to the hole better when Ayo was out. Still, not great though. Has to work hard on his explosion and decision making.
 
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Joel Goodson

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Keep in mind it's still early. He just finished his freshman season. He could still grow into an NBA talent or turn into a complete flop. No one really knows... except his mom.
Yeah, for sure. The question was is he "going to be a sure fire NBA player?" At the risk of being redundant, the answer is no.
 
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Keep in mind it's still early. He just finished his freshman season. He could still grow into an NBA talent or turn into a complete flop. No one really knows... except his mom.
There are worse things in the world than having your Mom advocate for you. I have no idea what went on here but if Mom thinks he will shine brighter somewhere else, so be it. Hope he goes on to great things. I’ll take an over involved parent vs an absent parent any day. I think my casual interest philosophy is going wonderfully.
 
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(as others have said) it's hard to make it as just a 3 and D guy at his size. Still need to have some handle and dribble-drive ability, like DeAnthony Melton for instance (not great, but has enough to make him playable and allow for his best skill -- defense -- to shine). Miller should be studying the heck out of Jared Butler. Imitating him is his best path forward.
I was just thinking the same thing watching Butler the other night. What is it that he can do that Miller couldn't learn in the next year or two? It would be lovely if he could turn into that for the Illini.
 
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That would do it. Head came in as a slasher who could jump out of the gym then became a shooter. Miller seems to be a shooter first. I think finishing at the rim has been his weakness. He double pumps and is often blocked. Ayo, Feliz and Curbelo all could finish with different techniques. If he gets better at finishing then he'll be more likely to get the ball in his hands more often.
This is what I saw from the beginning. His only contribution seemed to be as a shooter from the arc (earning my respect and that of most with his focus to become and effective defender) and on the few occasions he drove to the rim....which he seemed to do quite easily though not often...he seemed to have no idea how to finish. No tear drop, no stop and pop from 8 ft, no reverse, just nothing effective.,....simply how to finish against an athletic 6'8" jr. or sr. was a mystery. Toward the end of the season, he was able to get it done with a reverse and a couple other moves. AM has enough skill and athleticism to learn options quickly and execute. But it takes work in the film room, repetitions, listening to coaches, and learning from Ayo and Curbelo with whom he needs to pick minds. Watching the guards from Baylor should help also....they could score whenever they wanted and he is an inch taller than one and an inch shorter than the other....so pretty much same size and somewhat similar quickness.

What he needs is more patience, and I do believe he is a hard worker. If he wants to be great and play for a contender, he was in the best place possible. And what he needs to know is that every coach in the land will tell him they can do a better job of preparing him for the NBA...but few can...if any. What I don't know is what kind of limits BU put on him, but we have not seen that in the past and I am certain Coach would love to trust him to do whatever he thinks (preferably knows) he can do.

AM to me seems to be the perfect example of raw basic talent that has been told for years he is elite....and thought he was. He can be in time and along with hard work, that is what it takes. Ayo was also planning on a one and done...and will go down as an all-time Illini great....but he was far from NBA ready as a frosh as one could imagine. But what Ayo will be remembered and admired for by his coaches, teammates, and more mature Illini fans was that he kept his mouth shut and outworked the competition to become a First Team All-American. No one respects that more than I do.

I expect him back simply because there is no better place for him or his future. I don't believe Ayo, Trent, or Damonte had any problem playing with Curbelo....anyone know different?
 
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This is what I saw from the beginning. His only contribution seemed to be as a shooter from the arc (earning my respect and that of most with his focus to become and effective defender) and on the few occasions he drove to the rim....which he seemed to do quite easily though not often...he seemed to have no idea how to finish. No tear drop, no stop and pop from 8 ft, no reverse, just nothing effective.,....simply how to finish against an athletic 6'8" jr. or sr. was a mystery. Toward the end of the season, he was able to get it done with a reverse and a couple other moves. AM has enough skill and athleticism to learn options quickly and execute. But it takes work in the film room, repetitions, listening to coaches, and learning from Ayo and Curbelo with whom he needs to pick minds. Watching the guards from Baylor should help also....they could score whenever they wanted and he is an inch taller than one and an inch shorter than the other....so pretty much same size and somewhat similar quickness.

What he needs is more patience, and I do believe he is a hard worker. If he wants to be great and play for a contender, he was in the best place possible. And what he needs to know is that every coach in the land will tell him they can do a better job of preparing him for the NBA...but few can...if any. What I don't know is what kind of limits BU put on him, but we have not seen that in the past and I am certain Coach would love to trust him to do whatever he thinks (preferably knows) he can do.

AM to me seems to be the perfect example of raw basic talent that has been told for years he is elite....and thought he was. He can be in time and along with hard work, that is what it takes. Ayo was also planning on a one and done...and will go down as an all-time Illini great....but he was far from NBA ready as a frosh as one could imagine. But what Ayo will be remembered and admired for by his coaches, teammates, and more mature Illini fans was that he kept his mouth shut and outworked the competition to become a First Team All-American. No one respects that more than I do.

I expect him back simply because there is no better place for him or his future. I don't believe Ayo, Trent, or Damonte had any problem playing with Curbelo....anyone know different?
"Best place possible"...two thumbs up. 2005 Dee and Deron,
2022 Andre and Adam.....Ax2 or " Double As"
 
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