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<blockquote data-quote="Second and Chalmers" data-source="post: 1219102" data-attributes="member: 527609"><p>They kinda did a poor job of defining the criteria there, lets try to do better!</p><p></p><p>First of all, in order to make apples-to-apples comparisons, it's tough to mix Power Five and non-Power Five guys. The jobs are too different and the guys are in too different of stages of their careers. Let's stick with the P5.</p><p></p><p>And then you have to come up with a clear criteria. Listing the most accomplished coaches biases the list towards old guys that might be past their best and undervalues excellent new prospects. You could also do a hot seat ranking, but that punishes coaches in elite jobs for the higher expectations that they've helped create.</p><p></p><p>I think the best way to do it is as a fantasy draft. If a random (geographically neutral) school were drafting coaches, what order would they go in? This is assuming the coach takes over and brings their whole staff with them in an effort to build a program over time. So age matters. It's a "who would you trade for who?" analysis.</p><p></p><p>Let's do it!</p><p></p><p>1. Urban Meyer</p><p>2. Jim Harbaugh</p><p>3. Nick Saban (I refuse to believe a 64 year old would go ahead of Meyer or Harbaugh)</p><p>4. Jimbo Fisher</p><p>5. Bob Stoops</p><p>6. Dabo Swinney</p><p>7. Mark Dantonio</p><p>8. Brian Kelly</p><p>9. Gary Patterson</p><p>10. David Shaw</p><p>11. Jim McElwain</p><p>12. Dan Mullen</p><p>13. Hugh Freeze</p><p>14. Mike Gundy</p><p>15. Pat Narduzzi</p><p>16. Chris Petersen</p><p>17. Les Miles</p><p>18. Pat Fitzgerald</p><p>19. Bret Bielema</p><p>20. Kirk Ferentz</p><p>21. Jim Mora Jr.</p><p>22. Butch Jones</p><p>23. Todd Graham</p><p>24. Justin Fuente</p><p>25. David Cutcliffe</p><p>26. Sonny Dykes</p><p>27. Kirby Smart</p><p>28. Mark Richt</p><p>29. Kyle Whittingham</p><p>30. Bobby Petrino</p><p>31. Mark Helfrich</p><p>32. Gus Malzahn</p><p>33. Kevin Sumlin</p><p>34. James Franklin</p><p>35. Lovie Smith</p><p>36. Paul Johnson (should be 20 spots higher, but people discriminate against his offense)</p><p>37. Charlie Strong</p><p>38. Rich Rodriguez</p><p>39. Dino Babers</p><p>40. Larry Fedora</p><p>41. Paul Chryst</p><p>42. Mike Leach</p><p>43. Mark Stoops</p><p>44. Bronco Mendenhall</p><p>45. Dana Holgorsen</p><p>46. Will Muschamp</p><p>47. Matt Campbell</p><p>48. Dave Doeren</p><p>49. Mike Riley</p><p>50. DJ Durkin</p><p>51. Barry Odom</p><p>52. Clay Helton</p><p>53. Kliff Kingsbury</p><p>54. Bill Snyder (Not fair to him, but he has very little value starting something new)</p><p>55. Chris Ash</p><p>56. Gary Andersen</p><p>57. Steve Addazio</p><p>58. Jim Grobe</p><p>59. Derek Mason</p><p>60. Dave Clawson</p><p>61. Kevin Wilson</p><p>62. David Beaty</p><p>63. Tracy Claeys</p><p>64. Mike MacIntyre</p><p>65. Darrell Hazell</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Second and Chalmers, post: 1219102, member: 527609"] They kinda did a poor job of defining the criteria there, lets try to do better! First of all, in order to make apples-to-apples comparisons, it's tough to mix Power Five and non-Power Five guys. The jobs are too different and the guys are in too different of stages of their careers. Let's stick with the P5. And then you have to come up with a clear criteria. Listing the most accomplished coaches biases the list towards old guys that might be past their best and undervalues excellent new prospects. You could also do a hot seat ranking, but that punishes coaches in elite jobs for the higher expectations that they've helped create. I think the best way to do it is as a fantasy draft. If a random (geographically neutral) school were drafting coaches, what order would they go in? This is assuming the coach takes over and brings their whole staff with them in an effort to build a program over time. So age matters. It's a "who would you trade for who?" analysis. Let's do it! 1. Urban Meyer 2. Jim Harbaugh 3. Nick Saban (I refuse to believe a 64 year old would go ahead of Meyer or Harbaugh) 4. Jimbo Fisher 5. Bob Stoops 6. Dabo Swinney 7. Mark Dantonio 8. Brian Kelly 9. Gary Patterson 10. David Shaw 11. Jim McElwain 12. Dan Mullen 13. Hugh Freeze 14. Mike Gundy 15. Pat Narduzzi 16. Chris Petersen 17. Les Miles 18. Pat Fitzgerald 19. Bret Bielema 20. Kirk Ferentz 21. Jim Mora Jr. 22. Butch Jones 23. Todd Graham 24. Justin Fuente 25. David Cutcliffe 26. Sonny Dykes 27. Kirby Smart 28. Mark Richt 29. Kyle Whittingham 30. Bobby Petrino 31. Mark Helfrich 32. Gus Malzahn 33. Kevin Sumlin 34. James Franklin 35. Lovie Smith 36. Paul Johnson (should be 20 spots higher, but people discriminate against his offense) 37. Charlie Strong 38. Rich Rodriguez 39. Dino Babers 40. Larry Fedora 41. Paul Chryst 42. Mike Leach 43. Mark Stoops 44. Bronco Mendenhall 45. Dana Holgorsen 46. Will Muschamp 47. Matt Campbell 48. Dave Doeren 49. Mike Riley 50. DJ Durkin 51. Barry Odom 52. Clay Helton 53. Kliff Kingsbury 54. Bill Snyder (Not fair to him, but he has very little value starting something new) 55. Chris Ash 56. Gary Andersen 57. Steve Addazio 58. Jim Grobe 59. Derek Mason 60. Dave Clawson 61. Kevin Wilson 62. David Beaty 63. Tracy Claeys 64. Mike MacIntyre 65. Darrell Hazell [/QUOTE]
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