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<blockquote data-quote="champaignchris" data-source="post: 1707991" data-attributes="member: 26283"><p>This is what bothers me. Why are Bonds and Clemons ostracized, but Ortiz - who, if you were looking just at his on-field accomplishments, would be a frankly borderline Hall pick, and certainly not a first ballot-er - gets in right away. Ortiz wasn't anywhere near as good as the other primarily DH picks to make it in - Frank Thomas, Paul Molitor, Edgar Martinez. It's hypocrisy. How can Glanville even write that article today without addressing Ortiz?</p><p></p><p>Andruw Jones was a year younger than Ortiz and a far better player than Ortiz up to his 30th birthday. Then Jones' numbers started to sag, and Ortiz kept plugging along - even getting better to some degree. And we're just supposed to assume it's because Ortiz was, what? Better conditioned? A better ball player? Had better genetics? We know Ortiz tested positive for PEDs in 2003, coinciding with his first 30 HR, .900+ OPS season at age 27. Why do we give him the benefit of the doubt? Just a late bloomer, I guess. Ortiz gets in on the first ballot, while Jones - arguably the greatest defensive outfielder of all time - is now 0 for 5. </p><p></p><p>Glanville criticizes the willful suspension of disbelief we engaged in with Bonds, while completely ignoring that BWAA just inducted a guy that we know tested positive at one point and later had a .620 slugging and led the AL in doubles as a 40 year old.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="champaignchris, post: 1707991, member: 26283"] This is what bothers me. Why are Bonds and Clemons ostracized, but Ortiz - who, if you were looking just at his on-field accomplishments, would be a frankly borderline Hall pick, and certainly not a first ballot-er - gets in right away. Ortiz wasn't anywhere near as good as the other primarily DH picks to make it in - Frank Thomas, Paul Molitor, Edgar Martinez. It's hypocrisy. How can Glanville even write that article today without addressing Ortiz? Andruw Jones was a year younger than Ortiz and a far better player than Ortiz up to his 30th birthday. Then Jones' numbers started to sag, and Ortiz kept plugging along - even getting better to some degree. And we're just supposed to assume it's because Ortiz was, what? Better conditioned? A better ball player? Had better genetics? We know Ortiz tested positive for PEDs in 2003, coinciding with his first 30 HR, .900+ OPS season at age 27. Why do we give him the benefit of the doubt? Just a late bloomer, I guess. Ortiz gets in on the first ballot, while Jones - arguably the greatest defensive outfielder of all time - is now 0 for 5. Glanville criticizes the willful suspension of disbelief we engaged in with Bonds, while completely ignoring that BWAA just inducted a guy that we know tested positive at one point and later had a .620 slugging and led the AL in doubles as a 40 year old. [/QUOTE]
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