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<blockquote data-quote="MA Illini" data-source="post: 1708069" data-attributes="member: 56555"><p>But this also makes my point, Barry and Roger were not subject to testing for the vast majority of their careers. Ortiz played in league with a testing protocol for 490 of his 541 HRs. Now, I also agree that Clemons and Bonds were hall of famers even if they had never taken steroids - steroids didn't make the hall of famers, but it certainly enhanced their profile significantly especially since longevity of excellence is really important in building a HOF career. But Bonds only hit ~50 of his home runs under the testing protocol. If you think the testing protocol was/is a big part of ensuring compliances, Ortiz thrived while the protocol was in place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MA Illini, post: 1708069, member: 56555"] But this also makes my point, Barry and Roger were not subject to testing for the vast majority of their careers. Ortiz played in league with a testing protocol for 490 of his 541 HRs. Now, I also agree that Clemons and Bonds were hall of famers even if they had never taken steroids - steroids didn't make the hall of famers, but it certainly enhanced their profile significantly especially since longevity of excellence is really important in building a HOF career. But Bonds only hit ~50 of his home runs under the testing protocol. If you think the testing protocol was/is a big part of ensuring compliances, Ortiz thrived while the protocol was in place. [/QUOTE]
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