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<blockquote data-quote="bdutts" data-source="post: 1416748" data-attributes="member: 29"><p>I would say overall I disagree. Yes, there is some luck involved for sure but I wouldn't say it mostly due to luck. </p><p></p><p>You made a comment about staying players staying healthy. Sure, there is some luck that you're not run at and hit in the head. But these guys work on their fitness and nutrition and that helps them to fight the nagging injuries or to prevent them from becoming seriously injured during the grind of a season.</p><p></p><p>Edmonton had the first pick in the draft at least three years in a row and won exactly zero cups. That's not unlucky, that's just poor drafting and development. Would the Hawks have been worse if they took Phil Kessel or Nick Backstrom? I doubt it. There are a lot of good players at the top of drafts so yeah, there is some luck in getting that draft order due to the lottery but after that, it's on the team to develop those players. And yeah, some is on the player themselves if they don't develop (Cam Barker is but on example).</p><p></p><p>Then there is the whole fitting them in under the salary cap which really has nothing to with luck and has everything to do with math. The fact that Bowman had to dismantle the team after 2010 and still won two more cups after that should speak volumes.</p><p></p><p>Is he the greatest GM ever? Probably not. But to say he had been lucky to win the other two cups is minimizing his contribution, IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bdutts, post: 1416748, member: 29"] I would say overall I disagree. Yes, there is some luck involved for sure but I wouldn't say it mostly due to luck. You made a comment about staying players staying healthy. Sure, there is some luck that you're not run at and hit in the head. But these guys work on their fitness and nutrition and that helps them to fight the nagging injuries or to prevent them from becoming seriously injured during the grind of a season. Edmonton had the first pick in the draft at least three years in a row and won exactly zero cups. That's not unlucky, that's just poor drafting and development. Would the Hawks have been worse if they took Phil Kessel or Nick Backstrom? I doubt it. There are a lot of good players at the top of drafts so yeah, there is some luck in getting that draft order due to the lottery but after that, it's on the team to develop those players. And yeah, some is on the player themselves if they don't develop (Cam Barker is but on example). Then there is the whole fitting them in under the salary cap which really has nothing to with luck and has everything to do with math. The fact that Bowman had to dismantle the team after 2010 and still won two more cups after that should speak volumes. Is he the greatest GM ever? Probably not. But to say he had been lucky to win the other two cups is minimizing his contribution, IMO. [/QUOTE]
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