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<blockquote data-quote="SnakePlissken" data-source="post: 1779140" data-attributes="member: 746392"><p>I have very little idea what this statement means. Perhaps you could clarify? Do you want more front office and coaching staff turnover? </p><p></p><p>Regarding the young players who were shed, here's how I see it:</p><p></p><p>Hagel - Love him as a player and what he brought to the team, but I don't see how you can't make that trade. In fact, I think the absurdly high return for Hagel set the bar a bit too high for what followed.</p><p></p><p>Dach - Tough one, hate to give up on a big center with skill so early. My biggest beef with the Hawks is absolutely wasting last year with no real NHL coaching staff. Stan should have been fired for incompetence before the Beach scandal broke. I just don't see how he made the 'win now' trade for Jones without firing Colliton and getting a real coach. Then Davidson compounded the problem by putting King in place and saying it was too difficult to change systems mid-season, as if that's never been done successfully before. So I think it's really hard to properly evaluate the roster as a whole and Dach in particular. That said, he does seem to get lit up a lot and it looks like his ceiling is 2C so probably fair value in this trade based on what we've seen from him so far.</p><p></p><p>Cat - Definitely an underwhelming return for what he has accomplished, but unlike Hagel he has a difficult contract. I'm surprised he was traded without having an extension in place already. If he says no to an extension he can play the year after this one for 9M and then walk to UFA. If Davidson waited until the deadline, the 1st round picks we'd get back are from contending teams and less valuable. So if he decided to not keep him, the draft was the time to trade him. Stan is no longer a NHL GM, so you wouldn't find anyone else willing to trade a 2023 pick that's not top-10 protected.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Davidson clearly wants to be very, very bad this year and most likely really bad the next year. That's the only explanation for trading Cat. I think hockey is the ultimate team sport, but it's been shown that you need a superstar to win Cups and those guys are typically top 3 picks. I also think we're not beating Colorado anytime soon, so this is as good a time as any for a 5 year plan. I don't have season tickets so it's really not my problem at all. I can understand being salty if you are a STH and didn't think this would happen when you renewed. Time will tell if this was the right plan, but it is at least a plan.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SnakePlissken, post: 1779140, member: 746392"] I have very little idea what this statement means. Perhaps you could clarify? Do you want more front office and coaching staff turnover? Regarding the young players who were shed, here's how I see it: Hagel - Love him as a player and what he brought to the team, but I don't see how you can't make that trade. In fact, I think the absurdly high return for Hagel set the bar a bit too high for what followed. Dach - Tough one, hate to give up on a big center with skill so early. My biggest beef with the Hawks is absolutely wasting last year with no real NHL coaching staff. Stan should have been fired for incompetence before the Beach scandal broke. I just don't see how he made the 'win now' trade for Jones without firing Colliton and getting a real coach. Then Davidson compounded the problem by putting King in place and saying it was too difficult to change systems mid-season, as if that's never been done successfully before. So I think it's really hard to properly evaluate the roster as a whole and Dach in particular. That said, he does seem to get lit up a lot and it looks like his ceiling is 2C so probably fair value in this trade based on what we've seen from him so far. Cat - Definitely an underwhelming return for what he has accomplished, but unlike Hagel he has a difficult contract. I'm surprised he was traded without having an extension in place already. If he says no to an extension he can play the year after this one for 9M and then walk to UFA. If Davidson waited until the deadline, the 1st round picks we'd get back are from contending teams and less valuable. So if he decided to not keep him, the draft was the time to trade him. Stan is no longer a NHL GM, so you wouldn't find anyone else willing to trade a 2023 pick that's not top-10 protected. Davidson clearly wants to be very, very bad this year and most likely really bad the next year. That's the only explanation for trading Cat. I think hockey is the ultimate team sport, but it's been shown that you need a superstar to win Cups and those guys are typically top 3 picks. I also think we're not beating Colorado anytime soon, so this is as good a time as any for a 5 year plan. I don't have season tickets so it's really not my problem at all. I can understand being salty if you are a STH and didn't think this would happen when you renewed. Time will tell if this was the right plan, but it is at least a plan. [/QUOTE]
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