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<blockquote data-quote="FollowTisdale" data-source="post: 1469474" data-attributes="member: 619279"><p>Greinke is actually a good delineation line. Greinke is signed through 2021 on his current deal, Hamels will have to get by on a series of 1 year deals after this year, most likely, but lets just assume both pitch through their age 37 season (2021). Greinke probably ends up with a career fWAR in the mid 60s, Hamels mid to high 50s. Greinke had the higher 8 year peak with 39 fWAR from 2008 through 2015 (compared to 35 fWAR from Hamels over that same 8 year peak) and has the best "elite" year (2009, in which he probably should have been MVP alongside CY). He has 67 post season innings with a 3.83 FIP compared to Hamels 100 postseason innings with a 3.69 FIP and WS MVP (not sure how much that matters to voters). And this leaves out his hitting, which probably doesn't matter, but he's put up 5 fWAR as a hitter over his career. </p><p></p><p>I have a feeling Greinke is going to be one of the guys who holds on the ballot for awhile, maybe eclipses 75% in his later 10th+ year on the ballot, or if a weak year comes along.</p><p></p><p>Lester is a pretty big step behind those guys, value wise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FollowTisdale, post: 1469474, member: 619279"] Greinke is actually a good delineation line. Greinke is signed through 2021 on his current deal, Hamels will have to get by on a series of 1 year deals after this year, most likely, but lets just assume both pitch through their age 37 season (2021). Greinke probably ends up with a career fWAR in the mid 60s, Hamels mid to high 50s. Greinke had the higher 8 year peak with 39 fWAR from 2008 through 2015 (compared to 35 fWAR from Hamels over that same 8 year peak) and has the best "elite" year (2009, in which he probably should have been MVP alongside CY). He has 67 post season innings with a 3.83 FIP compared to Hamels 100 postseason innings with a 3.69 FIP and WS MVP (not sure how much that matters to voters). And this leaves out his hitting, which probably doesn't matter, but he's put up 5 fWAR as a hitter over his career. I have a feeling Greinke is going to be one of the guys who holds on the ballot for awhile, maybe eclipses 75% in his later 10th+ year on the ballot, or if a weak year comes along. Lester is a pretty big step behind those guys, value wise. [/QUOTE]
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