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<blockquote data-quote="LongLiveTheChief" data-source="post: 1651414" data-attributes="member: 748361"><p>I mean, if they had won 3 WS, I’m sure there would be at least 3 of those guys you’d call HoFers. </p><p></p><p>It’s really a combination of many things. Hitters didn’t develop as consistently as projected. Pitchers in the system flat out didn’t develop, and the Cubs honestly excelled FASTER than anticipated, which kinda pushed timetables around and may have messed with the 5 year plan. When you expect to be contending in 2017/18, but instead have one of the top records in 2015, go to the NLCS, suddenly you push the chips in early and don’t get as many prospects from selling. </p><p></p><p>The biggest key everyone has to remember is this: good teams still sell on occasion. Unless you are the 2000s yankees and you buy everyone, every team will sell on occasion. The fact that we are sellers at 4 games under .500 tells me a lot about the expectations of this team. The front office wants more than a playoff spot, they want to win it all again. That means some tough trades will happen. More may happen this winter, but 6 of the players we got this year are now top 20 in our system - which makes this deadline a pretty significant infusion of talent (and that does not include nick madrigal). I trust this front office’s ability to scout and develop players. They have some good young arms in the farm system and with all that money off the books, maybe they will buy some supporting cast or a big name or 2 in the next couple years as the young players develop. </p><p></p><p>Let’s not sit and say it’s all over. Rebuilds don’t take 100 years - they have kept a few promising you g talents in place for the next run - I’m think 2024 maybe 2025 we should be contending again. It’s unfortunate the 2016 core couldn’t do more, but they had their chances and they got help and still couldn’t crack through. </p><p></p><p>That said - Contreras is likely traded this winter when they can get more back. Should be a fun next couple years with some lesser known names become fan favorites.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LongLiveTheChief, post: 1651414, member: 748361"] I mean, if they had won 3 WS, I’m sure there would be at least 3 of those guys you’d call HoFers. It’s really a combination of many things. Hitters didn’t develop as consistently as projected. Pitchers in the system flat out didn’t develop, and the Cubs honestly excelled FASTER than anticipated, which kinda pushed timetables around and may have messed with the 5 year plan. When you expect to be contending in 2017/18, but instead have one of the top records in 2015, go to the NLCS, suddenly you push the chips in early and don’t get as many prospects from selling. The biggest key everyone has to remember is this: good teams still sell on occasion. Unless you are the 2000s yankees and you buy everyone, every team will sell on occasion. The fact that we are sellers at 4 games under .500 tells me a lot about the expectations of this team. The front office wants more than a playoff spot, they want to win it all again. That means some tough trades will happen. More may happen this winter, but 6 of the players we got this year are now top 20 in our system - which makes this deadline a pretty significant infusion of talent (and that does not include nick madrigal). I trust this front office’s ability to scout and develop players. They have some good young arms in the farm system and with all that money off the books, maybe they will buy some supporting cast or a big name or 2 in the next couple years as the young players develop. Let’s not sit and say it’s all over. Rebuilds don’t take 100 years - they have kept a few promising you g talents in place for the next run - I’m think 2024 maybe 2025 we should be contending again. It’s unfortunate the 2016 core couldn’t do more, but they had their chances and they got help and still couldn’t crack through. That said - Contreras is likely traded this winter when they can get more back. Should be a fun next couple years with some lesser known names become fan favorites. [/QUOTE]
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