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<blockquote data-quote="618 Illini" data-source="post: 1249191" data-attributes="member: 597866"><p>I am not one to be on the fire Groce train but the one thing I can't let slide is the lack of "identity" with Groce's teams. When you look around the league, the successful programs are typically known for something that they have yea rover year (Izzo's focus on hustle plays, Wiscos slow tempto and focus on good possessions, Duke's love for shooters).</p><p></p><p>Offensively the players seem to take turns hovering beyond the arc waiting until somebody beats their man or we run a high pick n roll and hope for the best. When I watch other teams with successful offenses, they seem to have a standard offensive scheme with flex/baseline cuts, 4 guys high at the FT line running off each other and various other additions like backdoor cuts/slipscreens/dribble handoff etc. to keep teams honest. Throughout Groce's time here I have always felt underwhelmed by his offense and don't really see it changing.</p><p></p><p>Defensively I believe you should have an identity as well. For example Cuse plays the stretch zone, VCU Havoc, WVU full court press etc. I am not saying we should implement the full court press per se, but I wish Groce had an identity and then recruited to fill roles within the system. When looking at Huggins' team it appears he finds the most athletic high motor guys that are willing to buy into the press idea and tells them to run around like crazy and create turnovers. If you are tired, he has a bench full of like minded and able bodied individuals that can sub in to give you a break. Our defense cannot play man to man for some reason which results in us dropping into some sort of loose 2-3 zone D. The strategy there sees to be, "get them to shoot it, hope for the miss and then hope for the rebound" and does not appear to be effective.</p><p></p><p>I think Groce is a great guy, mentor/leader and perfect representation of the University but I believe his lack of identity on both ends of the floor will keep him hovering around mediocrity and thus will not be the long term solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="618 Illini, post: 1249191, member: 597866"] I am not one to be on the fire Groce train but the one thing I can't let slide is the lack of "identity" with Groce's teams. When you look around the league, the successful programs are typically known for something that they have yea rover year (Izzo's focus on hustle plays, Wiscos slow tempto and focus on good possessions, Duke's love for shooters). Offensively the players seem to take turns hovering beyond the arc waiting until somebody beats their man or we run a high pick n roll and hope for the best. When I watch other teams with successful offenses, they seem to have a standard offensive scheme with flex/baseline cuts, 4 guys high at the FT line running off each other and various other additions like backdoor cuts/slipscreens/dribble handoff etc. to keep teams honest. Throughout Groce's time here I have always felt underwhelmed by his offense and don't really see it changing. Defensively I believe you should have an identity as well. For example Cuse plays the stretch zone, VCU Havoc, WVU full court press etc. I am not saying we should implement the full court press per se, but I wish Groce had an identity and then recruited to fill roles within the system. When looking at Huggins' team it appears he finds the most athletic high motor guys that are willing to buy into the press idea and tells them to run around like crazy and create turnovers. If you are tired, he has a bench full of like minded and able bodied individuals that can sub in to give you a break. Our defense cannot play man to man for some reason which results in us dropping into some sort of loose 2-3 zone D. The strategy there sees to be, "get them to shoot it, hope for the miss and then hope for the rebound" and does not appear to be effective. I think Groce is a great guy, mentor/leader and perfect representation of the University but I believe his lack of identity on both ends of the floor will keep him hovering around mediocrity and thus will not be the long term solution. [/QUOTE]
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