Illini Basketball 2022-2023

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IlliniLiveOn

Sierra Nevada
Feel free to downvote me to oblivion, but part of me thinks that if we snag Mayer and Nance that Goode *might* play more tick than Coleman if Coleman can’t start making 3s. If everything falls into place this is my minutes breakdown

PG: Skyy 28 Epps 12
SG: TSJ 29 RJ 6 Epps 5
SF: RJ 26 Ty 10 Goode 4
PF: Mayer 24 Goode 10 Ty 6
C: Nance 25 Hawkins 8 Dainja 7

^again this is contingent on Goode having a better summer and preseason than Coleman.

Final caveat: I think we’ll get one of Nance/Mayer, but not both. If we get both, Top 10 and another B1G title
The problem is that you are dividing players into 1-5, but here at Illinois we are increasingly playing positionless basketball. Mars would say it's the shoes. But we would say it's the athletes.
 
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The problem is that you are dividing players into 1-5, but here at Illinois we are increasingly playing positionless basketball. Mars would say it's the shoes. But we would say it's the athletes.
You still need guys with specific skills at some positions, most notably PG. A 2 might be able to play the 4 and a 3 might be able to play the 2, but for PG, you need guys with legitimate PG skills. For anyone that remembers trying to play Sergio at PG.

Not sure where this narrative that we're moving to position less basketball is coming from.
 
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Epsilon

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You still need guys with specific skills at some positions, most notably PG. A 2 might be able to play the 4 and a 3 might be able to play the 2, but for PG, you need guys with legitimate PG skills. For anyone that remembers trying to play Sergio at PG.

Not sure where this narrative that we're moving to position less basketball is coming from.
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IlliniLiveOn

Sierra Nevada
You still need guys with specific skills at some positions, most notably PG. A 2 might be able to play the 4 and a 3 might be able to play the 2, but for PG, you need guys with legitimate PG skills. For anyone that remembers trying to play Sergio at PG.

Not sure where this narrative that we're moving to position less basketball is coming from.
From BU. Positionless basketball is versatility ... doesn't mean you don't have to matchup to the other team if they can easily matchup to you.

Original post predicted:

PG: Skyy 28 Epps 12
SG: TSJ 29 RJ 6 Epps 5
SF: RJ 26 Ty 10 Goode 4
PF: Mayer 24 Goode 10 Ty 6
C: Nance 25 Hawkins 8 Dainja 7

My thoughts.

SG: Add Skyy, Harris, Mayer, Ty.
SF: Add Mayer, TSJ, possibly even Harris.
PF: Add TSJ, Nance, Hawkins, Dainja.

That's versatility. Gives you options and makes the other team try to match up.

As for minutes? Anybody's guess at this point.
 
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From BU. Positionless basketball is versatility ... doesn't mean you don't have to matchup to the other team if they can easily matchup to you.

Original post predicted:

PG: Skyy 28 Epps 12
SG: TSJ 29 RJ 6 Epps 5
SF: RJ 26 Ty 10 Goode 4
PF: Mayer 24 Goode 10 Ty 6
C: Nance 25 Hawkins 8 Dainja 7

My thoughts.

SG: Add Skyy, Harris, Mayer, Ty.
SF: Add Mayer, TSJ, possibly even Harris.
PF: Add TSJ, Nance, Hawkins, Dainja.

That's versatility. Gives you options and makes the other team try to match up.

As for minutes? Anybody's guess at this point.
Take everything BU says with a huge grain of salt. I love him as a coach, but he plain bullshits a lot of the time. He may be the premier practicer of coachspeak in the country.

That said both your post and the one you responded to have legitimate PGs at PG, so I can't disagree too much. Other than it's extremely unlikely we get both Nance and Mayer. I'd be delighted with one of them (I prefer Nance).
 
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Take everything BU says with a huge grain of salt. I love him as a coach, but he plain bullshits a lot of the time. He may be the premier practicer of coachspeak in the country.

That said both your post and the one you responded to have legitimate PGs at PG, so I can't disagree too much. Other than it's extremely unlikely we get both Nance and Mayer. I'd be delighted with one of them (I prefer Nance).
I get so frustrated with the ignorance of some of our Illini fans. Especially the ones who are always criticizing either the coaches or players!! I don’t see either a title of coach or college player bye the ones who are doing the criticizing!! I been a fan for 57 years and I seen the good and bad!! These young men are fun to watch and the Illini are prevalent again!! GO FIGHTING ILLINI!!
 
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He is definitely slimmer than he was at Baylor. At 0:04, his shirt lifts a bit, and you can see that he still has a soft belly. There are probably another 10-20lbs to be shed, or converted to muscle.
First time in my life I’ve ever watched a video waiting for a guy’s shirt to lift.

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Tevo

Wilmette, IL
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I recall the 2005 Illini using a similar effect. Our guards would come sprinting off cuts and grab Augie and literally use him as a pivot point which not only helped them maintain momentum as they came around but guaranteed a tight pick with no chance for a defender to step in between to defend it.

Yep, Augie was and is one of the most under-appreciated Illini of all-time, including by the Illinois fanbase.

#1 player in Big 10 in terms of career win-shares since 1995, and second place isn't particularly close. Big 10 career win-share link
 
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As for minutes? Anybody's guess at this point.
I'm expecting RJ, TSJ, and Sky to be the most locked into minutes. I'll be surprised if any of them is less than 25. There's a lot of talent on the roster, so it's not hard to imagine a deep rotation, even though most times that doesn't pan out. Front court, at least center, seems pretty open for competition to me.