Illini Basketball 2022-2023

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Dan

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Welcome to the Illini Basketball & College Basketball 2022-2023 thread :illinois:

Last year the B1G/ACC Challenge was announced on June 28th, the Gavitt Games was announced on June 24th.

Last year the Braggin' Rights date was announced (along with the entire non-conference schedule) on August 9th.

The full schedule typically gets released in August or early September.

Illinois in the 2022 Las Vegas Main Event with Baylor, UCLA, Virginia
Nov. 18 & 20, T-Mobile Arena
Illinois Sections: 11-15

Illinois vs Texas in the Jimmy V Classic
Dec. 6th, Madison Square Garden
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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sacraig said:
My favorite part about beating Mizzou is that, no matter how good or bad our season is, I can always say "well at least we beat Mizzou" and it makes me feel better.
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Unfortunately, the opposite can be true. The loss to Mizzou was an oozing blemish on an otherwise pretty terrific return to form in the 2020 season.
 
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Bbuck21

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Ransom Stoddard said:
Unfortunately, the opposite can be true. The loss to Mizzou was an oozing blemish on an otherwise pretty terrific return to form in the 2020 season.
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I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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Bloomington, IL
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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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It's a non-conference geographic rivalry, and there's been a game every year (except 1982) since 1976.
 
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goNOGSgo

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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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Living in the heart of miznoz nation nearly my entire life, their fan base is simply insufferable. They always think every recruit, every coach, every team is beyond words incredible. They are what they are, and if it was left at that, fine. But it’s like they see themselves as a blue blood in literally every way possible. Few things make me happier than their incredulous disbelief, every year, as they slowly realize over the course of their seasons that they are at best mediocre.
 
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GrayGhost77

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Centennial, CO
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skyIdub said:
Honestly, beating Miznoz, scUM twice, and IdiotOWA twice, as we did this last season, should come with a self awarded season trophy/award.

I'm sure we can come up with some creative trophy names for this.
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The "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo Trophy".
 
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sacraig

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Ransom Stoddard said:
Unfortunately, the opposite can be true. The loss to Mizzou was an oozing blemish on an otherwise pretty terrific return to form in the 2020 season.
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Luckily, my mental gymnastics allow me to ignore that side of the coin if we have a sufficiently good season.
 
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EthanM

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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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I grew up in central IL and more of my extended family has gone to Mizzou than to Illinois, even though they also grew up in IL. I'd say an equal number of kids in my HS class went to Mizzou as IL. At the time it was easy to get in and relatively cheap for out of state tuition. If you couldn't get in at IL and didn't want to go to ISU or one of the directionals, that's where people went.
 
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sacraig

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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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I grew up in the Metro East where it was probably 60/40 Illini/Mizzou fans, maybe 70/30 at best despite being in Illinois. Mizzou fans are awful. They're entitled and out of touch with reality (far more than we are on both counts) and dominate local media since the Missouri side of the metro area is probably 85/15 Mizzou/Illinois.

When you grow up in that environment as an Illini fan, a deep-rooted hatred for Mizzou naturally develops.

I'd also echo what @EthanM said above. Mizzou was a top destination for my HS classmates who couldn't get into Illinois (and a few who could) or just wanted to go elsewhere for whatever reason.
 
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JSpence

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sacraig said:
They're entitled and out of touch with reality (far more than we are on both counts) and dominate local media since the Missouri side of the metro area is probably 85/15 Mizzou/Illinois.
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This is the problem. The StL Metro media market only talks about their teams (and how much the Cubs suck) and nothing else. They cram in coverage of every sports team without sparing time to competently discuss top teams in the league or sports at large. Especially for the bad teams, they got accustomed to cranking out meaningless buzz for the fanatics. It seemed like they were on a mission to drum up support and keep teams in town.

I heard for years how good the Rams and Blues could be and were going to be. Miznoz got the same treatment, though even more starved of analysis. For mediocre and bad teams, the easy way out is to focus on rivalries... and that is St. Louis sports reporting to a T.
 
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sacraig

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JSpence said:
This is the problem. The StL Metro media market only talks about their teams (and how much the Cubs suck) and nothing else. They cram in coverage of every sports team without sparing time to competently discuss top teams in the league or sports at large. Especially for the bad teams, they got accustomed to cranking out meaningless buzz for the fanatics. It seemed like they were on a mission to drum up support and keep teams in town.

I heard for years how good the Rams and Blues could be and were going to be. Miznoz got the same treatment, though even more starved of analysis. For mediocre and bad teams, the easy way out is to focus on rivalries... and that is St. Louis sports reporting to a T.
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I mean, I can really get behind this part of it. I grew up as an Illini fan in the Metro East. That means I grew up rooting for the Cardinals and the Illini. 🤷‍♂️

But the Rams were good for quite some time until Kroenke literally reenacted the plot of Major League. The Blues were good for a long time, then really stunk for a while, and now are good again. So I can't fault them for talking about that since there is actual history there. Mizzou basketball hasn't really had sustained success since, what, Norm Stewart? And Mizzou left the relatively cushy Big 12 and has next to no chance at becoming an SEC power in football.
 
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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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For some of us, it's just because we live in this state and proudly display the orange and blue in the sea of black haze....

I-L-L
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

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Chicago, IL
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I was born in Peoria, grew up in Iowa and live in Chicago … and I despise Mizzou. Do people really need any more of a reason than it’s probably our rivalry with the most fanfare, played in THE coolest setup in college hoops and against possibly the most insufferable fan base ever? You don’t have to be from Metro East or Southern Illinois…
 
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GrapplingIllini

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Fighter of the Nightman said:
I was born in Peoria, grew up in Iowa and live in Chicago … and I despise Mizzou. Do people really need any more of a reason than it’s probably our rivalry with the most fanfare, played in THE coolest setup in college hoops and against possibly the most insufferable fan base ever? You don’t have to be from Metro East or Southern Illinois…
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Exactly. I didn't grow up anywhere near the midwest. My time at UofI was the first time I ever visited and lived in the midwest. Mizzou still managed to be the team I despise the most even though I had no prior experience with them. Just can't stand the fanbase.
 
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BRucks

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Bbuck21 said:
I feel the same way about winning or losing that game. But I can't determine what drives this rivalry feeling. We have very good reasons for wanting to beat Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, maybe even a little NW. But what drives Illini fans and Mizzou fans to go at it?
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My question regarding Illini fans negative feelings toward Mizzou was met with a resounding "The fanbase and residents". Bare with me, here is my story and position. I was born and raised in PA. I chose UofI over Carnegie Mellon for architecture (then switched to engineering). Honestly, it was the tuition of about $800/year (even out of state) versus $8000 at CMU. I have been a diehard fan of everything Illini since 1976. Actually I really don't hate any other schools except for 2 exceptions. I vehemently trash UNC becasue of 2005. The refs gave them that NC and then we find out most of their players didn't even attempt to be students. That was a university wide corruption. I will never forgive them. I always trash ND becasue of their pompous attitude toward the rest of the NCAA and the obnoxious fanbase that includes huge numbers that have absolutely NO affiliation to that school. The worst kinds of fans in my book. When it comes to hate. I truly hate Bruce Pearl. Regarding Iowa itself, one of my daughters was undergrad there, and another daughter went to grad school there. As a parent, I have to say it was a really good school and great college town. My son's first choice was Illinois. But he wanted to study journalism and was accepted directly into the Mizzou Scjhool of Journaism and received scholarships. That was a no brainer = Mizzou. He is a diehard Mizzou fan now and that is the way it should be. We love the rivalry and I have taught him well how to subtly "talk trash". He had a great four years, made terrific friends (ironically most from the Chicago area), but said after those 4 years, "I will NEVER live in Missouri".
 
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illiniguy

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Bbuck21 said:
Bare with me, here is my story and position.
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